'Dubstep' invading club scene

-But that's why people are complaining about some parts of the article, because they are concerned that the average reader will be MIS-informed about certain elements of dubstep. Don't say you expected to receive criticism and then complain when people criticize! Ludicrous.

You excessively highlight this whole "brostep" thing which no one can even define, and the drugs that you say go along with it. Drugs are part of every music scene. If you really wanted to focus on the music, then why even bring up the subject.

CERTAIN PEOPLE NOT NAMING NAMES - Care WAY TO MUCH ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SAY OR THINK!!!

Even if everyone one of those statements from every person - were NEUTRAL and NOT AB MUSIC OR GENRES

you all would still have something to say about it..

Think about it like this... All of the people in the article were interviewed for a lengthy amount of time... And only certain statements were chose to be in this article

Basically what I am saying is... I know this article / interview was going to take much criticism.. but at the end of the day - this article wasn't written for you!!!

We didnt write this article as a... Hey Look at us we know everything about dubstep - it was for the average student to pick up and read about what the dubstep craze is all about

I will stick to one my famous statements: "there is always one (or two... or a few) Haters in every crowd... But if people are hating on you - that must mean your doing something right...."

All I have to say is people care to much about GENRES and SUBGENRES and WHAT DUBSTEP really is... but at the end of the day its all Music homies -

Hate it or Love it

And expressing your OUTRIGHT HATE AND negative opinions continually after someone write a well informed article - isnt going to get you any where.... (YOU HEAR ME IT ISNT GOING TO GET YOU ANY WHERE!!!!)

I know this article was going to take much heat and criticism - but atleast the average student walking down high street may have some better idea about what Dubstep is

And if you already know what it is - than enjoy it for yourself... stop hating

One love - music - cant we all just spread that love??

At the end of the day, I bless the Lord for Haters like yourselves who NIT PICK every little bit of what people say.

Thank-you Lord for giving us all Dubstep to argue over

peace

I ain't sayin' that there ain't no controversy about genres and subgenres, but the point is that people are making music to listen to that's good. The whole "brostep" thing is a phrase concocted by people who are trying to illustrate that they're "true" dubstep fans, unlike the wave of new fans who don't know what the scene is really about.

Brostep has nothing to do with drugs. Drugs have been on the rave scene forever, including dubstep now and in 2001. And anyone who tries to paint it like drugs are dangerous or detrimental are servants of fascist institutions and seek to oppress the masses. Clearly, everyone can choose for herself whether or not to do drugs.

The music I write might be considered "brostep," but it's just a stylistic evolution and I can definitely appreciate older "less abrasive styles."

There is no war, no conflict over styles. And the only reason anyone would think this is because this lie is being propagated non-stop.

As for the record label comment...every artist will belong to a label, and as marco said, the few major US labels tend not to sign EDM artists and therefore ignore the entire demand for EDM culture. The only relatively major EDM label in the US is Ultra records and I don't see the amount of albums they release dominating stores. Many EDM artists create their own labels, as Marco said, to promote the sound that they like... for instance, Steve Aoki founded Dim Mak records to promote his hard indie electro style which is represented by other artists on the label, such as The Bloody Beetroots. And these relationships are true for many other artists.

Finally, I want to clarify a comment I saw in the article. Making good music is never easy, and yes, alot of really really bad music is created because so many people can more easily access the equipment they need to produce music than ever before. However, actually sitting down and making the music, and better yet, making good music, is an extremely time consuming and intensive process. Not only do producers have to create and synthesize their own unique sounds, but they also have to compose it and master it. I alone have spent 3-4 hours on several occasions fine tuning a synthesizer that I want in a song... and there is normally 10-15 synths in a single song. Then you need to make sure your drums are up to par, everything's balanced, transitions are good, everything crisp and balanced, and after you spend 2 weeks composing and coming back to the song to make edits, you have another 2 weeks of good solid mastering ahead of you to make sure it sounds great on live systems, and is full volume... It a much more intensive process than the average user thinks. Even making "brostep" is difficult, and a great amount of time is centered around sound synthesis to make a tremendously fat bassline with an acceptably loud and abrasive synth over top. And no, I'm not trying to bash Scott, I just wanted to further elaborate on his point.

If you want to hear for yourself on the extreme's of dubstep, compare the sound of Skrillex to the sounds of Benga, Skream, and Jakwob... You'll notice, because of its heavy dub (ragga style) influence, which is much closer to the sound the genre originally championed, that Benga, Skream, and Jakwob have a much more tame sound as compared to Skrillex and Flux Pavilion. Benga and Skream still release music regularly and tour, but it's unfortunate that their music is overshadowed by the recent popularity of the dubstep (or brostep if youd prefer, though i don't like to use it because it's still dubstep) anthems from Skrillex and Flux Pavilion.

The EDM scene has a genre and subgenre equivalent in style to any analogue type of music. Hardstyle/Hardcore/Gabber cater toward those who may have originally only like metal because of it's extremely high tempo and harsh, epic synths. Nu-jazz is a genre that makes parallels between older styles of jazz songwriting and EDM music. House music is an expansive genre that houses many subgenres to cater to people taste for harder styles, more relaxed styles or minimal styles, found in hard electro-house, tech house, and minimal. Theyre all there waiting to be explored and I wish that people more regularly took the initiative to explore this entirely different world of music which they tend to ignore just because it isn't played on the radio (i.e. "fed to them"). The internet is helping to bring EDM music to people but even then, it still travels mostly by experiences (either at music festivals or shows) or by word of mouth from friends. Nonetheless, I encourage people to go check out all of the genres that exist and see which one you like best.

As for the record label comment...every artist will belong to a label, and as marco said, the few major US labels tend not to sign EDM artists and therefore ignore the entire demand for EDM culture. The only relatively major EDM label in the US is Ultra records and I don't see the amount of albums they release dominating stores. Many EDM artists create their own labels, as Marco said, to promote the sound that they like... for instance, Steve Aoki founded Dim Mak records to promote his hard indie electro style which is represented by other artists on the label, such as The Bloody Beetroots. And these relationships are true for many other artists.

Finally, I want to clarify a comment I saw in the article. Making good music is never easy, and yes, alot of really really bad music is created because so many people can more easily access the equipment they need to produce music than ever before. However, actually sitting down and making the music, and better yet, making good music, is an extremely time consuming and intensive process. Not only do producers have to create and synthesize their own unique sounds, but they also have to compose it and master it. I alone have spent 3-4 hours on several occasions fine tuning a synthesizer that I want in a song... and there is normally 10-15 synths in a single song. Then you need to make sure your drums are up to par, everything's balanced, transitions are good, everything crisp and balanced, and after you spend 2 weeks composing and coming back to the song to make edits, you have another 2 weeks of good solid mastering ahead of you to make sure it sounds great on live systems, and is full volume... It a much more intensive process than the average user thinks. Even making "brostep" is difficult, and a great amount of time is centered around sound synthesis to make a tremendously fat bassline with an acceptably loud and abrasive synth over top. And no, I'm not trying to bash Scott, I just wanted to further elaborate on his point.

If you want to hear for yourself on the extreme's of dubstep, compare the sound of Skrillex to the sounds of Benga, Skream, and Jakwob... You'll notice, because of its heavy dub (ragga style) influence, which is much closer to the sound the genre originally championed, that Benga, Skream, and Jakwob have a much more tame sound as compared to Skrillex and Flux Pavilion. Benga and Skream still release music regularly and tour, but it's unfortunate that their music is overshadowed by the recent popularity of the dubstep (or brostep if youd prefer, though i don't like to use it because it's still dubstep) anthems from Skrillex and Flux Pavilion.

The EDM scene has a genre and subgenre equivalent in style to any analogue type of music. Hardstyle/Hardcore/Gabber cater toward those who may have originally only like metal because of it's extremely high tempo and harsh, epic synths. Nu-jazz is a genre that makes parallels between older styles of jazz songwriting and EDM music. House music is an expansive genre that houses many subgenres to cater to people taste for harder styles, more relaxed styles or minimal styles, found in hard electro-house, tech house, and minimal. Theyre all there waiting to be explored and I wish that people more regularly took the initiative to explore this entirely different world of music which they tend to ignore just because it isn't played on the radio (i.e. "fed to them"). The internet is helping to bring EDM music to people but even then, it still travels mostly by experiences (either at music festivals or shows) or by word of mouth from friends. Nonetheless, I encourage people to go check out all of the genres that exist and see which one you like best.

1. What!? Simplicity?! Has he ever even opened up a DAW, some synths, percussion racks, and learned about eq'ing, compressing or any other production techniques and learned the art of mixing? Forget songwriting ability, just being able to produce something well in a studio environment is challenging enough, and then there is songwriting ability after that.

2. Everyone can make music? I don't understand the point of that statement. If anyone can make music, which dilutes the quality of the genre, what is the other side of the argument, that only major labels should release only big names? That's what happened with Britney Spears, and look at that shit. Maybe we need more simpleton's with their laptops diluting the music culture so we don't have to hear yet another crappy pop star ruin another genre

3. Apart from that though, I'd say I agree with most everything else in the article though, even if I disagree with some of the comments made in it. I think it's great these events are being thrown, and it really gets the genre out there and lets everyone enjoy what dubstep, and also electronic dance music of all forms, is. The music is really catching on, and the PLUR lifestyle is really a good message, which unfortunately gets overshadowed by the drug stigma associated with the style of music. I'll be looking forward to the future events with Ohio Stand Up, and OSU's Electronic Music Club.

My comment was not a complaint, merely a suggestion and my addition to the article. I thought the article was well written and focused, but I am one that likes to situate phenomena within a larger context, which is why I went on to give further background. You exaggerate my phrasing and no where did I say "This is too narrow!".

And you're right, my use of the word "record labels" was too broad and open to criticism. I meant mainstream labels which seek to pick up on popular trends rather than finding creative musical talent that breaks the norm. Your listing of those various labels that Tiesto belonged to does nothing to add to your point, however. Black Hole Recordings was a record label that Tiesto co-founded, and thus he pioneered a creative sound using that label as a foundation. In the past few years, however, it is my opinion that his music has become rather commercialized in the sense that he himself is no longer a trend-setter, but a follower. Not that I don't think he still doesn't produce good music, it has just become ho-hum to me.