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Many up in arms over President Gee’s Polish slip-up

jurich.4@osu.edu

Published: Wednesday, January 18, 2012

Updated: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 23:01

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President E. Gordon Gee made a comment about the Polish Army Jan. 11, that has many upset.

After President E. Gordon Gee compared the task of coordinating 18 Ohio State divisions to that of coordinating the Polish Army last week, many Polish-Americans are up in arms about the comment.

During a speech at the Columbus Metropolitan Club on Jan. 11, Gee said, "When we had these 18 colleges all kind of floating around, they were kind of like PT Boats, they were shooting each other. It was kind of like the Polish Army or something. I have no idea what it was."

Gee made the comment during the question-and-answer portion of an event about OSU's ability to maintain a secure financial foundation and to further the university's mission as a research institution. He immediately realized his mistake and, referencing previous slip-ups, said he had done it again and would now have to raise money for the Polish Army.

OSU's Polish Club has had discussions about the comment and has spoken with other local Polish clubs about their reactions to the comments, said Caroline Krakowski, a third-year in psychology and president of OSU's Polish Club, in an email. She said the club was insulted by the comments.

"We are extremely proud of our heritage and of the accomplishments of Polish people throughout history," Krakowski said in the email. "The comments made by President E. Gorden Gee negatively impacted our mission and were an insult to our nationality."

For some, such as Jerry Wiecek of Chicago, whose father survived the Nazi concentration camp Sachsenhausen and who is active in the Polish community in Chicago, the comment was both ignorant and offensive.

"My first reaction was that for all that the country of Poland has been through … we all thought in our community that Polish jokes were behind us," Wiecek said.

Gee is from what Wiecek called the "Archie Bunker generation," referring to a character from the television sitcom "All in the Family" famous for his prejudiced remarks.

"(Gee) can say whatever he thinks with a laugh and a snicker," Wiecek said.

To Wiecek, Gee's comment about sending money to Poland was equally as offensive as his initial comment.

"What's he gonna do, put $1,000 in an envelope and write ‘Poland' on it?" Wiecek said.

In an open letter to Gee that provided background on some of the Polish Army's accomplishments, Wiecek wrote, "Poland today has one of the strongest economies in Europe and is a driving force in the EU. So you can keep your money that you jokingly said you would have to raise to make amends for your idiotic remarks."

The letter included history of the Polish Army, Polish-American communities and traditions, as well as information on famous Polish-Americans such as Tadeusz Kosciuszko, who was a colonel in the Continental Army during the American Revolution.

And Wiecek wasn't alone in sending a letter.

Alex Storozynski, president and executive director of The Kosciuszko Foundation in New York and the son of a decorated Polish Army veteran, sent a letter to the OSU Board of Trustees asking that Gee be publicly reprimanded for the comment and that the Board fund more Polish history classes at OSU.

"As Trustees, you are the governing body for a state university in a state that has nearly half a million Polish-American taxpayers and voters. Yet you offer few classes in Polish language and literature, and no classes in Polish history," Storozynski wrote. "With your university receiving $493 million in state appropriations and $426 million in other government funding in 2012, surely you can afford to rectify this situation."

The Kosciuszko Foundation works to increase "American understanding of Polish culture and history," according to its website.

In response to backlash, Gee emailed an apology to the Chicago-based Polish-American Congress, saying, "As you might know, I made those ill-chosen remarks during a question-and-answer session after delivering a speech. I realized at the time that I had made a mistake."

Gee did not respond to The Lantern's request for comment.

In Wiecek's letter to Gee, he called the apology a "further slap in the face in that it did not fully address the seriousness of (Gee's) comments or their insulting nature."

Storozynski called the apology "half-hearted," saying, "Gee has a history of putting his feet in his mouth and having to apologize. Yet the Ohio State Board of Trustees has made him the highest paid college president in the United States, paying him $1.6 million annually."

Storozynski wrote in his letter that America's Founding Fathers gave Kosciuszko a plot of land on the Scioto River in Ohio for his service during the Revolutionary War. The land borders OSU and included what is now Riverside Drive Park in Dublin, Ohio. In September, the park was renamed Thaddeus Kosciuszko Park.

"If Mr. Gee is as much of a straight shooter as Polish soldiers, and has any semblance of decency, he should pay to erect a statue of Kosciuszko in that park," Storozynski wrote. "With a salary of $1.6 million per year, Mr. Gee can clearly afford it."

Wiecek said he would like to see Gee take a more hands-on approach at making amends. Wiecek referenced the thousands of Polish soldiers who fought alongside American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and said he would like to see Gee visit a Veterans Hall to either speak with American soldiers about what it was like to work next to Polish soldiers or to meet with Polish veterans and speak to them about their experiences.

"Just last week, there were eight members of the Polish Army killed in a roadside bomb in Afghanistan," Wiecek said. "What do you say to the families of those Polish soldiers who are fighting and dying for our freedom?"

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26 comments

Anonymous
Mon Jan 23 2012 19:25
The main problem here isn't which group that Gee insulted, or whether it was an insult, or should be perceived as an insult, etc.. The main problem is that Gee doesn't learn from his "gaffes", and he is going to publicly repeat them over and over until his disingenuous "apologies" can no longer sway even the most ardent Gee-supporter. The fact is that he's a walking, talking "bad PR time-bomb." When he can no longer "aw shucks" his way out of the gaffe du jour, it will be too late -- and any bit of good that he has achieved personally or professionally will be worthless. . .
Double Standards
Sat Jan 21 2012 21:12
Juduzink you are right.

If America truly is a nation of tolerance and diversity, there will be respect and tolerance for people of Polish ancestry since there are about 16 million Polish Americans and Polish Americans like Pulaski and Kosciuszko were key figures in fighting for America in 1776. Thadeus Kosciuszko engineered the fortifications of West Point against the British and put it on the map as America's key military institution.

Not to mention Poland has been an ally of America longer then any other nation. Why should we Polish Americans accept being insulted by Hollywood/TV media anti-Polish hate jokes when no other ethnic group would accept this?

Polish Americans are always hearing from the media how we as Americans can not say anything negative about Jews, Hispanics, Blacks, Muslims, etc but for some reason there is a double standard about the treatment of Polish people. Anyone with a brain knows these "Polish jokes" are insults against Polish people. Even Gee Gordon acknowledged it right after he made his "Polish Army" slur and the crowd definitely knew it. The guy in the audience who Gee was speaking to said "There you go again" when Gee made his slur about the Polish army, referencing Gee's history of putting his foot in his mouth.

Jaduzink
Sat Jan 21 2012 02:23
Perhaps as bad or worse that the bigotry of President Gee is the attitude of those who say "This is no big deal. Get over it" Your insensiticity and idiocy so how far American society still has to go to actually practice the ideals it so arrogantly it claims to have a special ownership: tolerance, diversty and justice.. God Bless America, the home of the brave and, apparently, still bigoted. God Bless President Gee a leader in education in need of an education.
Anonymous
Fri Jan 20 2012 23:13
Give me a break people. He was attacking your economy? Please understand his comment about raising money had NOTHING to do with Poland or their economy. It was a poke at himself, or the other comments he has made where he ended up raising money for other groups. The joke had nothing to do with the national finances of Poland. PC crying at its finest.
Speak out against anti-Polish hate
Fri Jan 20 2012 22:08
Gee should apologize in the form of aggressively speaking out against anti-Polish Bigotry hate jokes and letting the public know about the achievements of the Polish miltary like "Squadron 303". Squadron 303 shot down more Nazi German planes in the Battle of Britain then any other Allied squadron.
Ravi
Fri Jan 20 2012 16:06
I am Polish and I am not offended. Non of the american's idiots can offend me!
Anonymous
Fri Jan 20 2012 16:03
I think people need to know President Gee a little better before saying he is a terrible president, brings shame to the university and should not be the president at OSU. Everyone makes mistakes! Should he have said what he did? Absolutely not, but unfortunately it happened.

I do find it funny though that people that are upset because of the offensive remarks made by Gee are being offensive by calling others "uneducated" when they are trying to promote. Disagreeing with someone is different than insulting them.

Anonymous
Fri Jan 20 2012 06:14
Shows such as "All in the Family" was one of the biggest TV shows that promoted anti-Polish Hate jokes despite the producer Norman Lear's BIG LIE that the show was "against bigotry". Most Americans saw the bigot character Archie Bunker as a "hero" and gladly parroted his anti-Polish slurs to Polish Americans around them. After watching these anti-Polish shows, many Americans were CONDITIONED to believe its OK to insult Polish people with Hate Jokes. THAT WAS THE INTENTION OF HOLLYWOOD AND THE TV MEDIA.

The peak of "Polish jokes" was during the 1970's which is when "All In the Family" ran on Network TV.

Many Polish Americans were harassed and verbally assaulted by non-Polish Americans who saw "All in the Family". Polish Americans were ridiculed by non-Polish Americans with phrases such as "Dumb Polack" and "Meathead Polack" which were common phrases of Archie Bunker.

The power of TV and Hollywood motion pictures were used to dehumanize Polish people as much as possible.

Talk about hatred and Bigotry. NO OTHER ethnic group or nation has been attacked as viciously by Hollywood and TV media the way Polish people have been.

Even America's enemies were never degraded like this.

Anonymous
Fri Jan 20 2012 05:55
Origin of Polish jokes (Subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people):

Origin of Polish "jokes" came from Nazi German propaganda that was then pushed by Soviet communist sympathizers in Hollywood.
The racist stereotype that Poles are intellectually inferior or have subhuman intelligence came from Nazi German propaganda and Soviet propaganda.

For example, the MYTH that Polish horses were used to attack German tanks in WWII was total Nazi German propaganda that the Nazi Germans repeated over and over until it took a life of its own using the BIG LIE technique.

The Soviet Communists saw the value of this myth and the racist notion that Polish people have subhuman intelligence, so they had their Left-Wing sympathizers in Hollywood push it using Anti-Polish Television and Movie imagery to the American people.

The image of Polish people having subhuman intelligence was useful to the Soviet Communists, since then, people would not mind too much if Poland is occupied by the Soviet Union if Poles are portrayed as having a Slavic culture that is inferior and less then human.

Nazi German hatred of Polish people:
As for the German Nazis (and even the Soviets) they then killed off the educated class of Poland first to make their racist stereotype of Poles a reality.

Polish "jokes" were in Hitler's two speeches after he invaded Poland.

Hitler ridiculed Poles in his Sept. 19, 1939 speech in Danzig (today called Gdansk) and in his Berlin speech in Oct. 6, 1939 with these hate-through-humor anti-Polish "jokes" and references.
Ironically, Left-wing Hollywood and the TV Networks (like NBC-TV) pushed these racist Polish "jokes" in the 60's and 70's even though they claimed to hate Nazis. Hollywood and NBC-TV evidently hate Nazi propaganda but not when its applied to Poles. Hollywood and Network-TV (NBC) have a deep hatred for Anti-communist, Pro-American, Pro-Catholic Poland.

The recent movie "Katyn" shows the German Nazis and Soviets killing the educated Polish class in Poland in order to make Poland "intellectually inferior" and easier to rule. This was during the time Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were collaborating with each other to destroy Poland as per their Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to destroy Poland together.

Polish jokes did not predate the 20th Century since it was introduced in America by left-wing bigots in Hollywood and TV networks like NBC-TV in the late 1960's and 1970's with anti-Polish "shows" such as "Laugh In"
Many Polish Americans who lived before this time have reported that they never heard these racist jokes until AFTER they were introduced by Left-Wing networks like NBC-TV in conjunction with Hollywood. NBC-TV launched Polish-bashing shows such as "Laugh In" which ridiculed Polish people constantly. In addition late night bigots were encouraged to bash Poles with "jokes" that portrayed the Polish people as having subhuman intelligence. Therefore the power of Television and motion pictures was used to demean Polish people with repetitive big lie type propaganda in the 60's and 70's.

Most of these anti-Polish hate jokes have come from NBC-TV. NBC-TV anti-Polish Bigot Seth Meyers was bashing Polish people with Nazi subhuman intelligence jokes as recently as Nov. 5, 2011.

This is part of NBC-TV's anti-Polish hate campaign, meant to condition the public to see Polish people as having subhuman intelligence.

Anonymous
Thu Jan 19 2012 23:03
Gee did not apologize. He sent a 4 sentence email mostly justifying his weakness and simply saying, I apologize. The following is a real heartfelt and meaningful apology. Gee's prejudice and ego runs deeper than his good judgment and commitment to Ohio State. by Anthony P Krzywicki
December 16, 2008

President, Polish American Congress
Dear Mr. Spula:
I apologize for the comments which I made Friday at a Republican State Committee luncheon in New York.
In retrospect, I can see that they were inappropriate and I regret having made them. You may be sure I will never make the same mistake again.
In my 28 years in the United States Senate, I have always valued my strong relationship with the Polish community. I have traveled to Poland on several occasions, most recently in 2007. Following my visit, I returned to the floor of he United States Senate to share with my colleagues that, "the relationship between the Untied States and Poland is strong." I also recognized Poland's important contribution to the war on terrorism: "Poland is putting forward a number of troops to assist the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan, with 900 in Iraq and 1,200 in Afghanistan."
To my knowledge, I am one of the few, if not the only, Senators who has hosted a Polish national on my Washington, D.C. staff who returned to Warsaw to serve his government.
As the son of Russian immigrants, I keenly appreciate that one's heritage is a matter of intense pride and identity. I look forward to working with the Polish-American community in the years to come.
SENATOR ARLEN SPECTER

Anonymous
Thu Jan 19 2012 18:29
i see lots of rednecks around here and under some dirty ugly stone, get a job bro !, Poland is kicking ass, and leading entire Europe out of financial and moral depression, no weak $ needed from brainless dudes or university grossly overpaid quasi-redneck!
Alum and Ex Donor
Thu Jan 19 2012 14:33
To Kelly: I agree. OSU needs to kick Gee to the curb! If Gee would've made an absurd Jewish remark and upset the Jewish community, I bet Les Wexner would've finally woke up and told "his" OSU Board of Trustees that it's time for Gee to go! But until then, Les Wexner and "his" OSU Board of Trustees will keep shameful Gee (I don't even address him as president because I feel he lacks the qualities of an excellent university president) and will keep giving Gee raises and bonuses that he doesn't deserve!

To Frederick: I agree. Gee's idiotic/ignorant comments bring shame to the University! Gee doesn't act like a leader; he acts like a clown!

To Proud Polish-American: I agree. Why are some populations told to "get over it," while other populations are encouraged to stand up against prejudicial remarks?
btw--"many" is not a verb.

Anonymous
Thu Jan 19 2012 12:57
IN RESPONSE TO : "Anonymous
Thu Jan 19 2012 09:34 I think we all have more important things to worry about than an innocent remark made by Dr. Gee. People need to look... "

By your comment I can see that either you are as ignorant and Gordon Gee or too stupid to recognize common sense when a population is being racially attacked. For someone with as much caliber and being a teaching professional of any kind any person with common sense can see that these comments are tasteless, inaccurate and hurtful. I would suggest for you "Anonymous" to go to your local library and look through a history book and read about the many brave Polish people, use your internet to research the many notable Polish Army soldiers that fought for freedom, or most simple of all use your head!!! No matter what nationality, what country one is from being too blind to see the cruelness in that comment just shows your lack of education, compassion and most of all heart for any and all events that shaped our world. Shame on you for being so ignorant in the world's history and the "innocent" comments as you put are not so innocent and "little" as they shaped us to whom and what we are today, here in the US, Poland and all over Europe.

Anthony
Thu Jan 19 2012 11:38
How many of u would tell a Jewish joke that conveys the idea of deceit and unethical financial manipulation as the punch line? Would you tell a joke about African-Americans with the idea of laziness or welfare fraud as the punch line? Well maybe you would privately but not in a room full of business leaders because you know it is wrong (except if you are from Ohio State). It perpetuates stereotypes that are unhealthy in this society. Anthony P Krzywicki, President Jagiellonian Law Society
MP
Thu Jan 19 2012 11:13
To all "Anonymous" who think that there are more important things to worry about. Where do you think your econmic problems, lack of jobs, the homeless and hungry are coming from? They come from the fact that this country stopped careing about the "little" things! American greed, lack of education, morality and lack of leadership, where bigotry and racism are reality in 21st century. How backwards is that Mr./Ms. A1?
Anonymous
Thu Jan 19 2012 10:55
What do Mormons and apples have in common? They both look better hanging from trees! Do you see how that is offensive?
Proud Polish-American
Thu Jan 19 2012 10:34
"How Polish people does it take to change a light bulb? Zero. Poland is so backwards they just discovered fire last year!"

Amazing, because it seems to me that you're perhaps the one lacking intelligence since you missed a verb in your first sentence.

What's also amazing is that Archie Bunker bigotry & racism are alive and kicking in 2012.

And then when as Polish-Americans we speak out against being insulted, we're told to get over it. Why should we get over it? How about you get over your prejudices?

Dumb Polack jokes are not funny, or cool, and they're not something that we should "get over." We've been "getting over" them for far too long, and I'm glad that as a community we're finally starting to stand up to them.

Anonymous
Thu Jan 19 2012 10:02
Polish-Americans are up in arms about Mr. Gee's comment? Really?! The Polish community thinks this is a slap in the face and a comment that belittle's Polish people everywhere?! Last time I checked we are in America, the land of the free and home of the brave. We have free speech, so if you are Polish-American and do not like the comments, move back to Poland. No one cares that you are outraged, we have other issues to correct. GET OVER IT. People make comments every day. And no, OSU should NOT make more available Polish classes, if you want Polish history research it yourself or go to another University.
Polish Doctor
Thu Jan 19 2012 10:01
This article gave me a good laugh. The student's faux anger and outrage reminds me how sad it is in our society that everybody is vying to be "the next victim" of insensitivity. Are those who are truly offended also writing letters of outrage to the film industry that produces war comedies, which also trivialize the brutality of war? I doubt it. The only reason they are "so" upset is because the Lantern will give them space to do so. Heck, with this article we did not even have to get into he comment section for Godwin's law to come true!
Anonymous
Thu Jan 19 2012 09:57
Could we please redirect effort to ensure unyielding standards of political correctness to something more useful? Erect a polish statue? more polish classes? You want more wasted money which you are a part in paying for? I can see being slightly offended but lets get real, we have elections coming up, legislation threatening first amendment rights online, and brewing tension in the middle east. Use you energy for something constructive, not attacking Gee for a slip which isn't going to change his personality, but it might help you get an apology which fits your standards.






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