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Smoking rules not enforced, some say

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Published: Monday, April 19, 2010

Updated: Saturday, June 16, 2012 01:06

Ohio State continues to allow smoking on campus despite many other colleges going smoke-free.

Big Ten universities that have gone smoke-free include Penn State, University of Michigan, Indiana University, University of Iowa, Purdue University and University of Wisconsin, according to the American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation Web site.

"They may not be much different than Ohio State," said Jim Lynch, director of OSU Media Relations. Some schools might still allow smoking in designated areas on campus, he said in an e-mail.

OSU's campus smoking policy prohibits smoking in a 25-foot area around all building entrances, exits and windows.

"I think it's OK as it is," said Taylor Chung, a first-year in business.

"You have to be careful safety-wise. You should try to have precautions to protect the buildings."

Some students like the OSU smoking policy but are unsure of what OSU is doing to uphold it.

"I think it's a good policy but I don't think it's enforced," said Becky Fussner, a first-year in psychology. "If I were to have a problem, I don't know who I would go to."

Violations can be reported to building coordinators, said Ben Lewis, communication manager for Human Resources. He said he didn't think there were fines and that people are mostly reminded not to do it again.

The smoking policy adheres to the Ohio Smoking Ban that was passed in November 2006.

The OSU Medical Center went smoke-free in July 2006, before the Ohio ban was passed. Many surrounding health science buildings also went tobacco-free inside and out.

This decision was based on the Medical Center's mission statement, which pledges to improve people's lives, said Les Ridout, chief human resources officer for the Medical Center.

"It seemed appropriate that we move to improve the working conditions in our workplace and afford our patients, visitors and employees an environment free of tobacco use and secondary smoke," he said in an e-mail.

After these changes, some colleges, departments and the campus in general expressed a desire to become smoke-free, according to a memo sent to the Board of Trustees in February 2007 by Larry Lewellen, vice president of Human Resources.

"We will continue to have periodic discussions about becoming totally smoke-free," Lewellen said in an e-mail Friday. "When we do return to it, we will have a full campus-wide discussion."

President E. Gordon Gee said although he supports a smoke-free campus, it is not on the top of his priority list.

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It doesn't seem to be on anyone else's, either.

"I am not aware of any active proposal to make Ohio State a smoke-free campus," Lynch said.

Students no longer seem to be interested in a smoking ban.

"I would not like that," said Travis Churchill, a first-year in material science. "It's a big campus. It would be difficult to go off campus to smoke."

For now, it seems Churchill has nothing to worry about.
 

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19 comments

Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 14:56
Well unfortunately for everyone who believe smoking should be banned, we live in America. The air and outside belong to no one. And no where in history have people always obeyed and observed every rule and regulation. If you want fresh air, go to the mountains.
At what point did personal freedoms like smoking become negotiable? I personally hate the smell of cheap colognes like Axe, and yet people are still allowed to use it. I also hate the Uggs, baggy jeans, Abercrombie, coconut, bananas, loud motorcycles and so on. The point is I can't do anything about other people having all those things. Some of those things are actually offensive to me. But if everyone spent all their time being as offended as non-smokers are, nothing would ever get done.
This is life. This is the real world. If you came to college thinking things would always play out in your favor, then you're in a for a rude awakening. Some of you are making it seem as though smokers are constantly chasing you down with flyers to join the club. We're not. We like to smoke. Don't make a case out of it, and we won't either.
Kate
Tue Apr 20 2010 13:38
Even if the campus smoking ban passed, how would it be enforced? Who even patrols the oval/campus sidewalks during the day (or night)? Take a look at the walkway outside the SEL ('the smoke tunnel") and you'll see that whoever is supposed to be enforcing the "25 feet away" rule, isn't. If that rule can't be enforced properly, how could campus-wide one be? I sure as hell don't like smoke but we will always deal with smokers and the inconsiderate ones who throw their butts on the ground or smoke in kids' faces. You just have to make them feel bad about it! I am extremely grateful for the 2006 Ohio smoking ban -- how did we put up with smoking in restaurants/bars before it?!
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 13:15
I understand enforcing the rules about people smoking within 25 feet of building entrances. But the people who can't even be outside if people are smoking because it is "ruining their fresh air," how do you do anything in life? Do you drive a car? Ever sit in traffic? What do you think is coming out from all those cars on the road, including yours? Air pollution. Are you going to ban cars too? Should cars no be allowed to drive on campus because they pollute the airways? I mean, seriously, what has happened to people?
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 12:03
Why dont smokers put a clear plastic bag with a drawstring over their heads while smoking, making sure the drawstring is tight around their necks. That way, everybody is happy. The smoker who can get more of that filthy smoke into their lungs, and the nonsmoker who after many years of having to inhale that disgusting stuff and is finally getting some fresh air to breathe because of smoking bans in eating places, sports stadiums, work places, etc.
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 11:12
Let's ban ALL personal activities some others might find offensive! Like, say ... morons who walk around with earplugs on checking their litlle hand-held security units every 15 seconds while walking directly into oncoming motor traffic ... oooh, I hate that!

So what dirty little habits do these saintly non-smokers have that we can pounce upon for future bans? Get your own lives, idiots!

Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 10:20
Smoking is absolutely an irresponsible hobby. With that being said, it is sad that we are talking about banning it. Every ban, every law takes away a little bit of freedom, for what? Comfort when walking outside and not smelling smoke? What about the smokers who will get lung cancer? Is the ban suppose to protect them? Or, will they find somewhere else to smoke, or smoke with a foot inside an OSU building like they do now. Maybe the smoke should remind us of the freedom we are slowly losing in the effort to govern people who cannot govern themselves.
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 08:49
We wouldn't be having this discussion if the discussion was "alcoholics must walk 25 feet from a building to have their 3 or 4 shots of whiskey during the work day."
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 08:30
I agree, Mr. Ethics.
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 08:00
Smoking stinks and smokers stink...end of story. Humans are carnivores and comparing food smells to smoke smells is ludicrous. Besides when is the last time a hamburger floated over and forced itself into your mouth?!
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 07:46
lol @ the idea of indoor smoking lounges. Why should ANY business have to support a habit/addiction? Are we allowed to drink alcohol at work/school? Chew tobacco at work/school? Your bias shows quite well. And for the person saying those who don't want to smell smoke should walk past you - try doing that in the Winter, especially with the ridiculous wind around here.
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 04:05
No, it's not "monkey see monkey do" or happenstance. It's a coordinated highly organized and heavily funded interstate campaign called "Smoke Free Campuses." They've been going for about three years now and have used their money and their skills to boost the number of smoke-banned campuses from about 2% to over 10% of the total.

You can tell they're extremists not only by some of the kooky ideas they push (e.g. the idea that there is *ANY* harm done from merely occasionally passing by some smoke outdoors) but also by their absolute refusal to even consider the reasonable option of solving the problem by allowing schools to set aside comfortable indoor smoking lounges where smokers and their friends could gather to study, chat, and relax. Those lounges could be separately ventilated at very little expense and it would almost completely solve the problem of clusters of smokers outdoors or near doorways etc.

The people who feel truly affected by wisps of smoke would support such an option. But note how many of the active smoke-banners support it: virtually none of them. The goal of Smoke Free Campuses has nothing to do with "protecting" anyone from "secondhand smoke." It's all about social engineering: making smoking as inconvenient, unenjoyable, expensive, and unattractive as possible.

You can see more about the lies behind these bans in the free "New Stiletto" you can find by Googling the four words: stiletto defiance mcfadden dimly

If there's anything in it that you have a substantive criticism of please share it here for everyone to see. I am open about who I am and about what my "competing interest" might be claimed to be, and I stand firmly behind what I write.

Michael J. McFadden,
Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"

non smoker
Tue Apr 20 2010 01:50
who cares people need to quiet worrying about others business
Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 00:30
How would a campus-wide smoking ban be legal? I mean, this is public university, not private property, and smoking is not illegal. Right now, the law says that you have to smoke 25 feet away from an entrance, so that's a law that can be enforced. But OSU can't, as a public university, just make up its own laws on top of that. I am a smoker, and the law gives me the right to smoke in public as long as I'm at 25 feet away from an entrance. It doesn't matter whether I'm standing on High Street or 25 feet away from any entrance at the OSU library. So, can someone explain to me how banning smoking on campus would be legal? How could the university possibly enforce such a ban?

P.S.--for people who hate walking behind a smoker, here's an idea: speed up and walk in front of the person. I mean, really, at some point you have to take some responsibility for yourself instead of expecting the whole world to conform to what you want. I personally think that eating meat is a disgusting, filthy habit, but if someone sits beside me at a restaurant and eats a hamburger, I don't sit there making gagging noises and rude faces and then go out and call for a campus-wide ban on beef. If the smell of the beef bothers me that much, I just sit somewhere else because, hey, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person on the planet. Sheesh! Learn to co-exist already.

Anonymous
Tue Apr 20 2010 00:16
It's not about individual thinking. It's about what's best for people in the campus area. Your rights end where mine begin and if you're smoking in my face when I'm trying to walk out of a building you're god damned right I'm going to make a fuss about it.
Jack Hammer
Mon Apr 19 2010 23:01
I am a non-smoker and I personally can't stand walking behind someone who holds a cigarette in their hand and maybe takes a puff once every couple of minutes while I constantly breathe their second hand smoke. Irregardless, what really makes me angry is when smokers blatantly ignore the large signs in the medical area stating that it is a NO SMOKING area. I've seen many people smoke right beside the signs and I get a rude smirk from them every time when I point it out. I mean how irresponsible, rude, and selfish is it for someone to smoke around people who are already sick, suffering, and dealing with pain. If anything, wish the university would uphold the smoking ban around the medical center more stringently. It's not fair to the patients.
Anonymous
Mon Apr 19 2010 22:43
“Journalism's ultimate purpose [is] to inform the reader, to bring him each day a letter from home and never to permit the serving of special interests.” - Arthur Ochs Sulzberger
Mr. Ethics
Mon Apr 19 2010 22:35
**ROLLS EYES** Look everyone, once again Lantern is using the paper to further their staff's personal agenda by trying to fuel a fire which was never there. What's this? The fourth/fifth column/article about smoking on campus in the last month with no ACTUAL prompting.

Instead of hyping up a non-existent smoking ban movement, let's boycott the crappy journalism.

Anonymous
Mon Apr 19 2010 22:29
How about trying a campus wide ban. Many others have done it and it reduces the confusion that exists now at OSU
Anonymous
Mon Apr 19 2010 20:58
What is it with these Universitys?

Monkey see monkey do??

Where is the indifvidual thinking??





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