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Students criticize recent alcohol crackdown program, concerned OSU is being targeted

By Claire Racine

racine.10@osu.edu

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Published: Monday, November 2, 2009

Updated: Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Ohio State students are rallying to tell police that they don’t deserve to be targeted in a crackdown on alcohol-related offenses.

What started last Thursday as a lecture on campus alcohol enforcement quickly turned into a heated argument regarding the Franklin County Stop Teenage Opportunity To Purchase, or STOP, program. Students met with law enforcement officials at Hitchcock Hall and spoke out about their problems with the program, and offered ideas on how to change it.

Although representatives from agencies including OSU Police and Columbus Police were present it was the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office, which administers the STOP program, that ended up fielding most of the questions.

One of the primary concerns among students is that OSU is the only university being targeted in the program, even though the program applies to nine other colleges in Franklin County.

“It feels like Ohio State students are getting persecuted and they’re not even trying anywhere else to do the same sort of programs,” said USG Senate Parliamentarian Brandon Edwards.

“We came up to Ohio State during the celebratory riots and all of that stuff,” said Chief Deputy Stephen Martin, head of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office Investigations Division, referring to riots that have occurred in the past after football games.

The fact that there haven’t been riots at OSU in a number of years, Martin said, may be an example of the program’s success — which is motivation for law enforcement officials to continue the program here.

Started in 2001 as a county-wide law enforcement collaborative, the STOP program originally focused on stopping teenagers from buying alcohol. The program used paid confidential informants between ages 17 and 19 to see if they could purchase alcohol at carry-outs, drive-thru’s, bars and night clubs.

Although the program was only intended to run through 2003 and the information on the Franklin County Web site is six years out of date, it is still in effect today.

“In 2003, because of the problems on the university, STOP expanded to game days,” said Lt. Shawn Bain, head of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office special investigations unit. Although the program now uses undercover police to infiltrate parties and arrest underage drinkers, Bain said it equally targets point-of-sale operations.

“Most of the criticisms I’ve heard about the STOP program have been tied to the treatment of the individuals and the transport process and the actual booking process,” said Jason Marion, a public health graduate student and student trustee. “It’s just ludicrous to me that we, with the number of people that we’ve historically dealt with, don’t set up a place here on campus to house these people until they can be taken into the custody of someone who’s willing to sign off responsibility for those individuals.”

Alex Kemper, a second-year in engineering, said he was arrested for underage drinking, but his arrest was late at night and his bail was not immediately processed — requiring him to appear in court. When he was taken to the courthouse, he said he was handcuffed to “a hardened massive felon.”

During these lengthy court sessions, Martin said police have to transport hundreds of felons to the courthouse, so it is possible that students find themselves next to someone charged with a more serious crime.

“You just have to understand, that this is a jail cell,” Martin said. “This is probably the most horrible situation to be in, especially as a young person, but it is a jail and that’s why it’s run as a jail. Once you go in there, you are a prisoner. Because you’re from a family that makes $500 thousand a year makes absolutely no difference to us. You’re a prisoner.”

Once football season is through, Martin said, law enforcement officials will meet to evaluate the program. But even if the program fell through, some say it would simply be replaced by a similar campaign.

“If [the STOP program] goes away, I guarantee something else is coming right behind it,” said Glenn Taylor, deputy director of the Ohio Investigative Unit.

USG is asking students to submit their testimonies about the STOP program to USG Vice President Jordan Davis at davis.2370@osu.edu.

Comments

27 comments
STOP victim
Mon Nov 16 2009 15:27
Those of you passing judgment on those of us that have been victimized by the STOP program truly have no idea what you are talking about. I fully understand drinking underage is illegal and there are legal risks associated with it. The problem is this STOP program is targeting whoever is easiest to arrest, not those causing the real problems. I was arrested this weekend sitting on my back porch sipping on my first beer of the morning before the Iowa game. I would have understood writing a citation because I certainly was breaking the law but the punishment simply does not fit the crime. I was in jail for over 10 hours, 4 of which before I even got a phone call to ask someone to post my bail. In jail I met many other OSU students and 95% of them were totally sober and in similar situations to myself... on private property not harming anyone. We were all treated subhuman and the process was clearly intentionally drawn out to "teach us a lesson". Well, the only lesson I learned this weekend is that our justice system is very poorly allocating its resources when it could have focused its time and money a block away from my campus house to fight actual violent crime.
Claire S
Mon Nov 16 2009 14:23
The crime does not fit the punishment in any sense of the word. Out of 40 people arrested before the Iowa game, only two of them were actually even intoxicated. The whole STOP program is a disgusting breech of justice with power hungry cops eager to get as much money as they can out of OSU students. Instead of praying on students who are working to become functional members of society, walk down the streets away from campus where the real crime is. How about doing your job and protecting citizens as opposed to further making them distrust the system.
Georgia M.
Wed Nov 4 2009 15:08
Just a thought directed towards those saying while in college they never drank underage... Was that because you were truly trying to obey the law or because the drinking age was at 18?

Also, If you really want to cut back on the number of intoxicated teenagers, bring back 3.2 beer. If you happen to be an underage student and you know someone who is 21 and willing to buy alcohol for you, would you ask for beer or liquor? Probably liquor because it is easily to to store and also "quicker", as the saying goes. There is no excuse to not allow 18 year old to have an ice cold beer--3.2 at the least--after signing up for the draft or voting. I find it completely ridiculous that young adults cannot sip on alcoholic beverage without the police hovering waiting for it to touch the lips just to get in an arrest, meet a quota, and collect the tax money that underage student pays.

As for the amount someone's family makes, quite frankly it is no ones business. There is no possible way to tell if a student is here only on loans and scholarships or if his or her daddy works his ass off to make a good living. If someone has the nerve to imply that all college students must be wealthy and arrogant, think again. You most likely wouldn't be that critical and bitter unless your not as well-off or you didn't get a higher education yourself.

Cops- if you want to walk around the streets on a Friday or Saturday night, do your job and just protect the public. Make sure kids aren't passed out in the bushes or stumbling in the street, but don't punish the responsible ones. College is the time for learning (gaining knowledge through experience). So back off and let the kids play.

Frambes Guy
Tue Nov 3 2009 23:33
Under covers coming onto your porch is the main problem with this program, if someone isn't doing anything to cause harm to their self or others. Why in the world would you walk onto someones porch who is drinking a beer before heading to the game and bust them for an underage? Why don't you focus on the "mature" crowd down at hineygate and riverwatch who are heavily intoxicated and not acting their age b/c they have a few hours away from their kids on the weekend. That is where the real problem is, when have you ever heard of a "riot" happening in the "off-campus" neighborhood at 11am? NEVER! This all goes back to that witch of a president we had before Gee named Holbrook.
Corruption Catcher
Tue Nov 3 2009 14:55
Wow! What kills me is that if law enforcement is so concerned with underage drinkers and those who sell to underage drinkers then they better take another look at their officers. I have seen many of our wonderful Columbus police officers easily paid off by bar owners. hmmm

Kids, I guess if you don't want to go to jail, you better whip out a few thousand.

Mary N
Tue Nov 3 2009 14:07
I am a parent who believes that the drinking age should be lowered to 18. If your legally an adult at 18, you should have all the privileges of adulthood including drinking alcohol.
David
Tue Nov 3 2009 13:16
@Cody, you said: "I had no drank that night."

Oh, the sad irony of lambasting someone for poor grammar while making mistakes of your own... Maybe next time you should think about your own fallibility before belittling others.

Jason B
Tue Nov 3 2009 12:09
If you don't want to face the consequences don't break the law, it's as simple as that. If you think the law is wrong get the law changed. Organize, vote, protest - the constitution provides you with numerous means of redress. If you can't the law changed you've got to live with it. I'm not saying that it is necessarily an reprehensible thing is disregard a law that you believe is unnecessary or unjust, what is reprehensible is to expect special treatment based on your social status. Well-off, privileged college students already enjoy a myriad of advantages and preferential treatment - a special place in the legal system should not be yet another advantage.

To those that keep on stating that the CPD should concentrate on more serious crimes in the campus area rather do not understand the nature of the situation and the neighborhood. I have lived in the North Campus area for over a decade and take it from me that a majority of the crimes that happen in area are predicated or exacerbated by alcohol. Just look at the Lantern police blotter - so many of crimes involve perpetrators or victims (a lot of time both) who are drunk. I myself and my property have been subject to assault, theft, vandalism, disturbances etc., etc. during the time I've lived here and it is almost always due to drunk, often underage kids who think they can get away with anything. By taking care of small problems in the neighborhood like underage drinking. the CPD can prevent bigger crimes.

Of course these kid's are going to drink booze. That is a given. But is they know that there might be consequences for their actions they might think twice about taking that 5th shot and doing something stupid.

Your name
Tue Nov 3 2009 12:01
I remember when I was under age and the liquor control undercovers used to hit the bars, and the cops or truant officers (who remembers those?) would crash parties. I also remember street drag racing and hell-raising on our motorcycles.

If we got caught, we got caught. We knew when we went in that there was always that risk, and we took out licks. We didn't claim oppression, discrimination or political motives. Our parents didn't call their lawyers. If I got caught doing something, Mom and Dad weren't going to bail me out. If I were hanging out with a bunch of people doing stuff. I knew I could be swept into trouble with them. I didn't like it at the time, but in retrospect, it taught me that I'm responsible for my own actions and can determine my own future based on them.

Too bad such values aren't being passed on by parents. Perhaps we wouldn't have a nation of whiners and self-professed victims who blame their legal predicaments on everyone but themselves.

Cody
Tue Nov 3 2009 11:22
Anyone who says kids shouldn't drink underage this part is for you;

Youre probably old now and you might not remember because it has been so long but im sure that a gross majority of you drank while in college, if you made it that far. (meaning you aren't a cop...i heard better grammar out of "crazy willie" and the guy who beat his wife and child than from the esteemed deputies that put me there.). So the way i see it youre either a hypocrite or you are older than i thought and the drinking age was lowered. So shut up.

This is my story which shows the program is severely flawed:

I was sitting on a front porch at 8:30pm on a Friday with a friend talking and relaxing. This is taking place while the guys across the street are throwing chairs into their yard out of the second story window. Regardless, 6 deputies surround the front porch arrest my friend who is holding a beer. pick up a beer off the floor of the porch (roughly 4 feet from me) and arrest me because "it must be mine". Now when i do my drinking, i usually keep my beer much closer to me, but let me reiterate the franklin county deputies do what they do because they can barely spell their names, so things like common sense don't apply here. I was then held for 14 hours...14 hours. for being near beer. I had no drank that night, and had they given me a chance to take a blood or breath test, they would have made themselves look even more foolish. Then the same story i'd heard from other students. Bail didn't go through because the computers were down. I later found out, the deputies are making the bail slow so that they keep prisoners at least 8 hours and get money from the state for a full day of imprisonment costs.

This part is for the students:

If they say no more riots means its working and they should stay. All i'm going to say is that they most in shape person on the undercover team was a blonde woman who looks to be around 5'6'' 130 lbs and about 55 because of her heavy smoking and Penn State is this weekend and win or lose its a big deal. If they really wanted to stop rioting, they would have brought riot police...not undercovers in football jerseys

Just a note:

Many of you say the justice system must be equal for all. It is obvious thatmnay of you have no knowledge regarding what you are saying so ill just give you one example: prositution...yes. selling your body for money. is a lesser misdemeanor than underage consumption. So everyone who thinks that a a night in jail is proper punishment for a beer...pull your head of of your old asses

I. B. Anonymous
Tue Nov 3 2009 10:19
I think a more telling experience about Columbus PD would be the fact that frequently cars with out of state license plates go missing due to Columbus Police who "accidently" misenter the information at the impound lot. My old insurance company would purposely get a car impounded every month, walk the lot with a hidden camera, and then threaten to call the media if they did not release the vehicles to their owners. Since the proof was illegally taken (you can take pictures or video while oin the lot), they had no legal basis for recovering the cars. In agreement for keeping our mouthes shut, the CPD would release the vehicles. Now I don't know how many vehicles CPD impound in a month, but when an insurance company reclaims 100-500 vehicles monthly that way, I think there is something wrong. And oh yea, my car had been impounded for a month, so despite them claiming to not have it for that month, despite me having a CPD police report showing it was report stolen, despite the inconvenience I had with getting to work, I had to pay a month's worth of impound fees. Luckily my parents helped me out, but that should NEVER have happened int he first place.
Your name
Tue Nov 3 2009 10:12
You can't compare convicted felons to college students drinking underage, Deputy. You're missing the point: you're right, it doesn't matter that the kid's parents make $500,000. What matters is that the 18 year old who drank a few beers is shackled to a guy who's committed a much more serious crime. There should definitely be a a holding place on campus where students with alcohol related arrests can be held. Or, maybe, the police can focus their efforts on much more serious crimes and criminals and handcuff them together.
Your name
Tue Nov 3 2009 09:23
there are countless robberies a day. cars, businesses, and homes being broken into and thousands of dollars worth of property being taken. my roommates car was broken into last week. we called the police department and they said there was nothing they could do. "you can fill out a report but it's pointless" is what we were told. I guess all the police were busy harassing 18-20 year olds who were trying to peacefully drink a beer. And for all the people on here that say "if you are underage, don't drink," get off your high horse. Like you never drank beer when you were underage.
DON BUSH
Tue Nov 3 2009 09:12
This statement by this Chief Deputy Stephen Martin, head of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office Investigations Division --“You just have to understand, that this is a jail cell,” Martin said. “This is probably the most horrible situation to be in, especially as a young person, but it is a jail and that’s why it’s run as a jail. Once you go in there, you are a prisoner. Because you’re from a family that makes $500 thousand a year makes absolutely no difference to us. You’re a prisoner.”--tells us a lot. I believe they enjoy putting the young folks in "... the most horrible situation to be in, ..." even before they are deemed to be guilty is satisfying to the officers. I believe the officials in public safety see the students as an arrogant lot of rotten kids like: "...you’re from a family that makes $500 thousand a year ..." After all, it is also easier to 'police them' rather than to police safety.
DON BUSH
Tue Nov 3 2009 09:00
I believe the should apply those resources to prevention of the high incidence of violent crime in the University District. If Chief Deputy Stephen Martin, head of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office Investigations Division would walk a beat in the area, rather than “We came up to Ohio State during the celebratory riots and all of that stuff,” perhaps he could do more for the public good.
Mel
Tue Nov 3 2009 08:59
Good grief, you probably wouldn't get arrested if you were were not acting like a butt hole while drinking. I am all for a good time, but come on! Grow a pair! I managed to get through college just fine, enjoying my adult beverages and NOT GETTING ARRESTED.
Neal Hicks
Tue Nov 3 2009 08:42
If there's a law that says you can't drink underage, and can't buy alcohol underage, and that law is enforced, and that is inconvenient for you, logic indicates you are probably breaking the law. To then complain that enforcement of the law is inconvenient or somehow unfair, because you might get caught, would be laughable in the general public, the stuff of "News of the Weird" for for college students to maintain this is frankly embarrassing.

And yes that's over the top but if you don't like the law then you campaign to change the law. If you break the law you risk arrest. Welcome to the actual world.

David
Tue Nov 3 2009 08:32
The crackdowns are retarded, since police don't have any real criminals to go after they persecute the helpless and those with money, which often leads them to college campuses.

We need to get rid of these laws of victimless crimes, it makes no damn sense that at 18 you can join the military, smoke a cigar, and vote for the next president, but you can't buy a beer.

And cops wonder why people hate them?

Jim I.
Tue Nov 3 2009 08:28
Take just a portion of that money ans make a real police presence in the area just south and east of campus where gang-bangin' crack dealers are standing 24 hrs a day. This is the neighborhood where police are shot at regularly. This is a far more important problem in our community than underage drinkers. The Franklin County Sheriff's office is more afraid of this area than the Columbus Police are. This has been a problem for 20 years. Law enforcement needs to take this area back for the sake of civilization. Priorities are all screwed-up. It's easier and more lucrative for the police to hassle college students. This is not how I want my law enforcement dollars being spent. Get a backbone law enforcement and do the right thing.
Paul J
Tue Nov 3 2009 07:54
One way to solve the problem is: If you are underage don't drink. Period. Wake up!






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