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Will Stand Your Ground law come to Ohio?

janneck.4@osu.edu

Published: Wednesday, April 4, 2012

Updated: Friday, June 15, 2012 23:06

The somewhat controversial Stand Your Ground law, which allows the use of deadly force in a self-defense situation, is becoming more and more popular by the day as details continue to emerge from the Trayvon Martin case in Florida.

But in Ohio, and more specifically the university-area where the threat of crime is ever-present, do students have the right to defend themselves?

The Stand Your Ground law allows those who are attacked outside of their home to be able to protect themselves by any means, including the right to use a concealed weapon if they feel threatened.

The Castle Doctrine law is upheld in Ohio, which allows for people who are attacked inside their home or vehicle to protect themselves.

Mike Newbern, a second-year in industrial and systems engineering and founder of Buckeyes for Concealed Carry on Campus, said if Ohio enacts the Stand Your Ground law, it will be beneficial and perhaps even lower crime rates on campus.

“When you look at wherever we have empowered citizens, law-abiding citizens, to take ownership for their self-defense, to allow them to carry concealed firearms, crime rates are lower,” Newbern said.

Newbern said he believes students are targeted for many reasons, whether it is distractions from cellphones or not being able to defend themselves, and he wants that to change.

Buckeyes for Concealed Carry works toward educating and promoting advocacy of gun rights so students know how to properly protect themselves.

Toby Hoover, executive director of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence, said the possibility of the Stand Your Ground law passing in Ohio is pure speculation at this point. Hoover said she does not want to see this law make its way to Ohio.

“I think it would be a huge mistake for them to go to the next step in saying that no matter where you are, you can shoot someone if you feel threatened,” Hoover said. “Everybody’s idea of when they feel threatened is a little bit different.”

Some students agree with Hoover, in that they think the law could create some issues.

David Rutz, a fourth-year in German and mechanical engineering, said the Stand Your Ground law would give individual citizens too much power and would take away the power from law enforcement officers.

“I think that (the Stand Your Ground law) opens up too much of a road for abuse of firearms,” Rutz said. “Is it really self-defense when you have to shoot to kill to protect yourself? … That’s why we have a police force everywhere.”

The Stand Your Ground law extends to protection of the victim in a court of law, where they will not be prosecuted if they decide to use lethal force as their method of self-defense against their attacker.

Ohio State Police Chief Paul Denton said University Police has not determined where it falls along this controversial topic.

“At this point I would say that we, along with other law enforcement professionals, would listen and learn as this issue is debated in public,” Denton said. “If it does progress to the legislature, we would weigh in at an appropriate time and in an appropriate manner.”

Lobbyist Jim Irvine of Buckeye Firearms Association said that people, especially students with a concealed carry permit, should weigh their options before using deadly force.

“Just because you have the legal authority to shoot someone doesn’t make that it is a good decision,” Irvine said. “You don’t ever want to be involved in a shooting that you can avoid.”

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11 comments

Anonymous
Wed Mar 20 2013 07:27
It seems what so many fail to realize is that the police will almost NEVER be able to arrive in time to stop a crime from occurring--especially if one is being cornered and threatened with the possibility of bodily harm. The police DO have a job to do, but it is unreasonable to expect them to be able to stop every single crime or save every single crime victim. Criminals AVOID the police at all costs, so why would they commit a crime when there is the possibility of police involvement? I understand that many of our youth on college campuses are naive to the fact that they could be a victim of a crime at any moment. I'm an Ohio State student myself, and being older and having personal experience with being a victim of crime, I can attest that the BEST solution to crime is to let the law-abiding citizen arm themselves and take responsibility for their own safety. This of course also entails the proper handling and technique of handgun usage, which Ohio requires anyway before obtaining a CCW permit. Do not be so lackadaisical and assume that someone else will come to your aid and protect you from harm; only YOU can guarantee your safety, and I can promise you that there will always be someone out there just waiting to take advantage of you if given half a chance. In addition, taking a life in self-defense is a LAST RESORT, but if need be, make certain it's the criminal that loses their life, and not you.
Anonymous
Sat Feb 9 2013 14:51
Clearly running and hidding has not worked up to this point, Open or concealed carry reduces crime as history shows, just review the stats. There has always been and always be those willing to harm or take what is not theirs form others. The right to protect ones self and property should be a given, and not require the permision of others. At what point in our country did the trusties we elect, become the rulling class?
Big Dick Daddy
Sun Jul 15 2012 18:57
I will never retreat from someone threatening me on my land. I pay my taxes and own a firearm. Why would I retreat
Anonymous
Mon Apr 16 2012 09:28
If you have questions about concealed carry in Ohio contact us: Ohio Concealed Carry Institute 614-556-4446 www.OhioConcealedCarryInstitute.com
Anonymous
Thu Apr 5 2012 14:51
Stand your ground laws don't grant you permission to defend yourself if your feel threatened, they only publicly admit that you as a victim do not have to attempt to outrun the attacker's bullets before doing so.

The campus police chief will not under any circumstance apply logic to any debate on campus defense, he's already made up his pompous mind that you're only allowed to grovel on your knees until his men get to your location.

Self defense is EVERYBODY'S right!

Anonymous
Thu Apr 5 2012 13:06
How is the article biased? Duty to retreat is indeed the dumbest thing ever conceived. If someone is threatening harm to me, my loved ones, or my property, I will not hesitate to pull the trigger. I shouldn't have to run away in fear of getting prosecuted for doing what's right. If that somehow makes me a horrible person, so be it.
Thomas Lee
Thu Apr 5 2012 11:27
I wrote the comment below my name is Thomas Lee
Anonymous
Thu Apr 5 2012 11:24
This is a disgustingly biased article, The above comments sadden me deeply. The rampant racism of those of you spreading fear and hatred will only strengthen our conviction to fight for justice. I will not post this anonymously because unlike those of you trying to legalize vigilante murder, I am not afraid.
Anonymous
Thu Apr 5 2012 08:58
The article fails to explain how "Stand Your Ground" differs from Ohio law and only serves to confuse the issue. In Ohio, outside your home, business, or car, you have the duty to escape or withdraw from an encounter if at all possible. "Stand Your Ground" removes that duty to retreat, much as Ohio's application of the "Castle Doctrine". David Rutz and others walk away from this article believing he has no business defending himself. He is leaving his defense to the police. In actual fact, the job of police is to investigate your untimely death. They can't be everywhere to defend you. Accept some responsibility for your own safety. In Ohio today, you have the right to defend yourself with deadly force if: 1. your are not at fault for creating or escalating the situation, 2. have reasonable belief you are in immediate danger of death or bodily harm and cannot escape.
Anonymous
Thu Apr 5 2012 07:09
Nothing's changed here A thug assaulted a guy on the streets, who defended himself.One less thug in this world..thank you Zimmerman
Anonymous
Thu Apr 5 2012 07:08
If you have any questions about the CWP law or training contact www.e2c.us or 1-866-371-6111 and the Instructors at Equip 2 Conceal will be happy to help you




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