Concealed carry laws trigger protests

By Mary Posani and Jackie Storer

posani.3@osu.edu and storer.29@osu.edu

Published: Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Updated: Saturday, June 16, 2012

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Jackie Storer / Lantern photographer

James McMillan, a physics graduate student, Andrea Salyer, a 2nd-year in exploration, Rami Aziz, a 2nd-year in political science, and Katherine Chang, a 2nd-year in biochemistry, protest outside of Starbucks Tuesday for the right to carry a concealed weapon on campus.

Guns and coffee collided Tuesday outside as Ohio State students from the group Buckeyes for Concealed Carry on Campus spent part of their Valentine's Day advocating for the right to carry a weapon on campus.

The group protested outside Starbucks on 14th Avenue and High Street in a response to a nationwide boycott against Starbucks for its neutral position on concealed carry.

The National Gun Victim's Action Council called for a nationwide boycott of Starbucks on Valentine's Day until the corporation prohibits guns in the stores.

Michael Newbern, a second-year in industrial engineering and president of Buckeyes for Concealed Carry on Campus, said Starbucks has a neutral position on concealed carry laws.

Starbucks company spokesperson wrote in an email the company follows the state law but did not say whether it is for or against concealed carry.

"At Starbucks we deeply respect the views of our customers, and recognize that there is significant and genuine passion surrounding the issue of open carry weapons laws. We comply with local laws and statues in the communities we serve. Our long-standing approach to this issue remains unchanged and we abide by the laws that permit open carry in 43 U.S. states where these laws don't exist, openly carrying weapons in our stores is prohibited," a Starbucks company spokesperson said in an email.

Newbern said the group was also protesting Ohio law and OSU's policy to carry a firearm on campus.

OSU Police Chief Paul Denton said OSU follows the state's law for concealed carry, and follows OSU employee policy and student code of conduct.

"We support the Second Amendment, that's first and foremost," Denton said.

State law prohibits firearms in specified locations, including police stations, jails, day cares, airport terminals and airplanes, hospitals for the mentally ill, school safety zones, courthouses, places of religious worship, colleges and universities, and recently any location that has alcohol, Denton said.

OSU has locations that fall under state law that prohibit concealed carry. For example, a student cannot walk into the police station in Blankenship Hall on campus because state law says firearms are prohibited in police stations.

Similarly, a firearm cannot be carried into the Wexner Medical Center at Ohio State because it holds facilities to treat the mentally ill. Students are not able to carry a firearm on campus, Denton said, but can lock their firearm in their car before walking on campus.

One side of High Street allows concealed carry, and the other does not because it is part of campus.

Ross Krieg, a fifth-year in mechanical engineering, was at Tuesday's protest.

"I want to know why it's any different that I can stand here right now, but as soon as I walk across the street, I am perceived as irresponsible, unfit to carry a firearm," Krieg said. "What changes across High Street?"

Krieg said his life was saved because he had a firearm after an attack in December 2010 on Patterson Avenue, north of campus.

"I was on my way to a friend's house and a guy jumped me, tackled me and was beating me," Krieg said. "After a losing battle and damage to my face, I drew my firearm and gave the perpetrator a choice."

Krieg said his attacker ran away and he did not have to fire his weapon.

"It's not that I don't feel safe on campus, it's traveling off campus," Krieg said.

Newbern said he carries a firearm for his own personal safety too.

"It takes away the likelihood that a criminal will target us," Newbern said.

Denton said he believes possessing a firearm on campus grounds will not improve safety on campus.

"I don't think having more guns on campus makes us a safer place and the law does not need to be changed," Denton said.

Anastasia Pataky, a second-year in fashion and retail studies, said she is in support of OSU's policy.

"I think that it would cause way too many problems and put students in a vulnerable state," Pataky said. "We're young, we're learning, we don't need to put kids in jail for accidental gunfire. I just think there is so much danger, I just don't see the necessity of (concealed carry)."

Rami Aziz, a second-year in political science, said the main reason he wants to carry his firearm is to protect himself, not to cause an uproar.

"We don't want to break the law," Aziz said. "We're not outlaws."

Comments

35 comments
Anonymous
Thu Feb 16 2012 15:32
I was just jerkin his/her chain.
9 gun Liberal
Anonymous
Thu Feb 16 2012 14:19
Glock has several subsidiaries including one in the United States called Glock, Inc. So his Glock is most like produced by that company and by Americans. Besides, not all conservatives care where a product is produced, they care about quality.
Anonymous
Thu Feb 16 2012 13:14
You bought a foreign made gun? Some conservative.
Anonymous
Thu Feb 16 2012 10:21
My 40 Caliber Glock has only two (2) enemies- LIBERALS AND RUST--
Michael Newbern, founder Buckeyes for Concealed Carry on Campus, second year engineering undergraduate
Wed Feb 15 2012 18:03
My name is Michael Newbern. I am the founder and President of Buckeyes for Concealed Cary on Campus. I want to make it very clear that we were there in SUPPORT of Starbucks. Instead of a boycott, we elected to BUYCOTT Starbucks. We thinks Starbucks gets it right. We think our university administration could learn a thing or two from them.

Let me also make our intentions very clear. We do not want to change who can carry a firearm. We want to change where those that are licensed to carry a concealed firearm can carry said firearm.

Ohio Revised Code prohibits us from carrying a concealed firearm on campus, but allows us to store one in our vehicle while parked on campus. Ohio State's policy further restricts that right with policies that govern students, faculty, and staff banning firearms on campus "even if otherwise permitted by law." (Student Code of Conduct 3335-23-04_000(E)) Both of these restrictions need to be lifted. We are working in the Statehouse and yesterday began our campaign to the university administration.

I invite anyone that would like to join us to come to a meeting and/or reach out to us on our facebook. Point your browser to BuckeyesforConcealedCarry.com and you will be redirected.

Thomas Jefferson the Eighth
Wed Feb 15 2012 18:03
Our Founders put this as number 2. NUMBER 2!!!!!! They could have bumped in down to say 8, but they were not stupid, they fought and died for the causes that have helped to create what is now the premier country on earth. If we can no longer step out of our homes without fear of being violently attacked, we will live under quite a tyrannical rule. Trust your fellow man and let them have their guns.
Anonymous
Wed Feb 15 2012 17:18
Too much time spent playing violent video games here. BTW, "aliens" meant little green beings from another planet, another target in many first-person shooter games.
Anonymous
Wed Feb 15 2012 15:07
"I think that it would cause way too many problems and put students in a vulnerable state," Pataky said.

One problem with that. It is only what you THINK. There is no evidence to support that statement, anywhere in the country.

Anonymous
Wed Feb 15 2012 12:07
Liberals sux
Buckeyegreg
Wed Feb 15 2012 11:57
geee only police officers and criminals will have guns. Some day you will come around and see the error of your ways. I also would not point your bazooka at aliens as most are here legally and it is against the law to do so. Now if they pull a gun on you, You have every right to protect yourself.
Anonymous
Wed Feb 15 2012 11:47
This is just a silly practice that insecure folks need to 'carry' a weapon to 'feel safe'. More bullies in Ohio than one cares to believe!!!
JimInHouston
Wed Feb 15 2012 11:24
"More guns = more violence. Elementary school stuff here people"

Seemingly elementary, but just plain WRONG.

All reliable evidence is either the opposite or no effect.

Buckeye Marksman
Wed Feb 15 2012 11:18
BCCC was engaged in a "buycott" of Starbucks (look at the picture of the protester holding a Starbucks' cup). Another [anti-gun] group called for a boycott of Starbucks because they do not ban law abiding citizens from engaging in otherwise legal behavior while enjoying their beverage of choice. BCCC simply used this as a backdrop to protest OSU's hoplophobic policies.
Anonymous
Wed Feb 15 2012 11:04
The article reads as though the student group protested Starbucks for its neutrality. It was in fact anti-gun groups that called for the boycott on Valentine's Day because of said neutrality. Those of us who support gun rights made a point to patronize Starbucks yesterday.
Anonymous
Wed Feb 15 2012 11:01
I wish I would have known about this group when I was at OSU!

"Students are not able to carry a firearm on campus, Denton said, but can lock their firearm in their car before walking on campus." - What about all the students who live off campus & WALK to class or work? The east res. area is the worst. It would be nice to carry when you got off work from the library at midnight & have to walk home by yourself because the escort is full or not picking up when you call...

Anonymous
Wed Feb 15 2012 10:41
Allowing guns on campus is not just about people being able to pull the trigger and kill a 'bad guy' in an attack. It is about the overall feeling that comes with allowing firearms on campus. If people know firearms are allowed on campus they might think twice before attempting mug someone because they won't know if that individual is packing which means it could be that muggers last time. So what I am saying here is that there is potential for everyone to benefit from this and not just those individuals who explicitly exercise their right to carry.
Voltaire
Wed Feb 15 2012 10:40
I meant OSU's boundary with Columbus.
Voltaire
Wed Feb 15 2012 10:39
I can understand protesting if Starbucks refused to allow CCWs in its stores, but protesting because they refuse to take a position either way? Really? Just be happy Starbucks hasn't decided to ban them. As far as the sidewalk issue, because OSU has its own police department, its boundary with campus is no different than any other municipal boundary, which means it runs down the center of High Street. Notice also that OSU officers can make traffic stops Southbound on High but not Northbound.
Jarhead1982
Wed Feb 15 2012 09:49
Any person using the strawman carrying bazooka bs doesnt have the brain capacity to formulate an intelligent arguement or reply and is very indicative of the lower IQ level prevalent among sheeple.

So either grow up and engage with something other than childish hysterics or STFU.

Anonymous
Wed Feb 15 2012 09:37
First of all, the sidewalk on campus side of High does not belong to OSU. It belongs to the City of Columbus. I believe OSU is over reaching their bounds.
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