Paterno, Tressel departures spark reactions

By Mary Posani

posani.3@osu.edu

Published: Sunday, November 13, 2011

Updated: Saturday, June 16, 2012

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Penn State students took to the streets after former football coach Joe Paterno was fired Nov. 9, 2011.

After the whirlwind of media coverage on major news outlets about former Penn State coach Joe Paterno's dismissal for his knowledge of a sex scandal involving retired defensive coach Jerry Sandusky, it may be easy for Buckeye fans and students to compare PSU's sex abuse scandal to Ohio State's tattoo and memorabilia scandal.

While one scandal is a legal issue and the other involves NCAA violations, students at respective schools still have similar reactions to the loss of a football coach.

"There are similar reactions in the way (students) are responding to their team and their school and their coaches," said Peter Cappucci, a first-year in mathematics.

PSU's retired defensive coach Jerry Sandusky is accused of sexually abusing boys in a charity program, The Second Mile, a foundation created by Sandusky to work with at-risk youth. Sandusky is accused of sexually abusing the boys in his home and in PSU's football locker room, according the grand jury report.

Paterno, athletic director Tim Curley, senior vice president for business and finance Gary Schultz, and assistant coach Mike McQueary allegedly knew of the incidents happening since 2002 or before, but did not report it to the proper authorities. Paterno did, however, report the violations to PSU officials, but failed to report the issues any further.

OSU's scandal involved NCAA violations when football players sold memorabilia and received improper benefits from outside sources. Despite knowledge of the violations, former OSU coach Jim Tressel failed to report the violations.

News of OSU's NCAA violations occurred in December 2010. Tressel resigned in May, months after the 2011 Sugar Bowl against Arkansas and prior to the 2011 football season. About 200 students rallied and visited his home in Upper Arlington, Ohio, to show support and sing "Carmen Ohio."

After news of the sex scandal broke and Paterno cancelled his weekly press conference Tuesday, students rallied. About 300 PSU students showed similar support by appearing at Paterno's house Tuesday evening.

"I definitely think students rise to the occasion to support their coach, especially these two coaches," Cappucci said. "It's not that they were just one- or two-year coaches, they were long tenure coaches and they were loved for what they did for the success they had at their schools."

Paterno announced Wednesday morning he was to retire after the season, but PSU's Board of Trustees vice chair John Surma announced Wednesday night that Paterno was "no longer head coach, effective immediately." Thousands of students reacted by rioting on campus streets, throwing rocks and tipping a news van to its side in outrage about Paterno's dismissal.

While OSU students were upset about Tressel's departure, some students think that the riots on PSU's campus were too much.

"(Paterno's) done a lot of great things for (students) so I understand that when he goes out the way he did that they're not going to be happy," Cappucci said. "Some of it might be a little bit extreme, but you have got to move past it."

Carlin Kelly, a fourth-year in veterinary medicine, said she thinks PSU students reacted too violently in comparison to OSU students' reaction to Tressel leaving.

"There are similarities (in reactions), but we didn't overturn a news van or something," Kelly said.

Others were not shocked by PSU students' reactions.

Jennifer Tripi, a first-year in exploration, said she was not surprised to hear about the riots.

"I think it was definitely well-expected. (Paterno) was a respected coach and I think obviously because it is in the middle of football season, students are not going to be happy about that," Tripi said.

With all the publicity, Buckeye fans also cannot help but analyze the differences between the two scandals. Some students believe there is a similarity between the two.

"When you are in that leadership position, you have to deal with stuff like that, you can't just sweep it under the rug and pretend like it's not going on," Kelly said.

Tripi argues that the coaches acted similarly, but PSU's situation is more severe.

"I think they can be comparable, but in my opinion, the PSU situation is far worse and just out of the ordinary," Tripi said. "(The coaches') intent was not to hurt anybody but rather to stay out of the situation, which clearly wasn't the right decision."

Others say that the two scandals themselves are not comparable, but the consequences are similar.

"You can't compare the scandals. We're going to end up similar situations where the football team is going to break down for a while and you have to rebuild it, but the scandals are completely different," Cappucci said. "(PSU's) is a criminal offense, it's not just a football offense."

The grand jury report against Sandusky was posted on Pennsylvania's court website on Nov. 4. Paterno's dismissal came five days later on the Wednesday before the Nittany Lion's three-week stretch of tough matches left in its season: Nebraska, OSU and Wisconsin.

Some students agree that they were shocked to hear about Paterno's dismissal, but less surprised about Tressel's forced resignation.

"I think there is a little bit of a difference in us and them in that ours was a build-up over a long period of time and everything you could kind of see coming whereas PSU collapsed in one day," Cappucci said.

Despite views as to whether the scandals can be compared, students believe PSU's situation provides a new perspective to OSU.

"Our students sold some stuff for some money but nobody was hurt," Kelly said. "No innocent children were molested, you know, that's really serious."

With replacement coaches Tom Bradley and Luke Fickell, PSU and OSU will set aside the politics and face each other this Saturday. The teams are set to kick off in Ohio Stadium at 3:30 p.m.

Comments

9 comments
a mother
Wed Nov 16 2011 07:03
No comparison. Students will break the rules get discipline and get back to their lives. These children were violated by someone they trusted and their lives will never be the same.
Anonymous
Tue Nov 15 2011 12:52
Fickell deserves a chance to show what he could do if he really had control - such as choosing his own staff and dealing with discipline. We definitely don't need another "big name" coach (read U. Meyer) who already has retired twice - he couldn't handle it in Florida - we don't need him to come to OSU for a few years and then quit again. Let's give Fickell a REAL chance next year.
Anonymous
Tue Nov 15 2011 10:42
The only comparison I make is one remembered the INNOCENT kids being caught up in ridicule and drama and RESIGNED while the other chose his egomaniac control over a FB team instead raped and abused children!!!! Bob Costas what was the point of the Sandusky interview? Reminded me of when Rece Davis turned the Heisman ceremony into a humiliating experience for Cam and his mom by bring up the soap opera over and over again. Well the Newtons laughed all the way to the NFL millionaire Under Armour endorsement bank while Sandusky's victims will lawyer up and get their bank accounts reatty!!!!!!
Anonymous
Mon Nov 14 2011 12:44
This article is pointless. First of all, ask a first year? He wasnt even on campus when tressel was fired! And anyone who compares doesn't know anything about the situation.
Anonymous
Mon Nov 14 2011 12:43
No comparison here people. Stretching too far. Trying to retread the old Tressel news in a new way.
Anonymous
Mon Nov 14 2011 12:32
Seriously?!?! You even thought to compare these?
Anonymous
Mon Nov 14 2011 09:12
I am sorry, but there is absolutely no comparison between the two. One is about men behaving like boys, and another is to heinous to think about. If OSU students try and draw any parallels between the two, then they are delusional. The Penn State situation makes me sick, while the OSU "scandal" makes me shrug my shoulders. Get a grip OSU. I don't think that "doing the right thing" and telling his superiors was, in fact, the right thing at all. The authorities should have been contacted immediately, and Sorry, but JoPa had it coming.
Aitch
Mon Nov 14 2011 08:38
Keb, Let Fickell get his head coaching experience somewhere else & hire him back when he is ready in about 5 years. An example of his immaturity, 4th&1 in overtime Sat., going for the field goal, you play to win the game not hope for a second overtime, it's time to get an entire new coaching staff with a new philosophy
I agree get rid of the bow tie who was working for Tressel & Smith who has to be the worst AD in Buckeye history
Keb
Mon Nov 14 2011 08:10
Time to move on OSU: give Fickell a 5 year contract so that he can bring his team together. He is a great man, an OSU man, an OHIO man & is picking up the pieces/cards that were delt him very well. Fickell 5 year contract would get OSU back on a plan.
It would not hurt to fire AD Smith & Pres. Gee though!
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