'Porches don't just fall down'

By Dylan Tussel

tussel.2@osu.edu

Published: Sunday, October 24, 2010

Updated: Monday, October 25, 2010

porch collapse

Cody Cousino / The Lantern

The roof of the porch at 44 E. Lane Ave, collapsed Saturday at about 3:30 a.m.

The roof covering the front porch of an East Lane Avenue home collapsed Saturday morning. That's the only thing the tenants and property manager agree on.

A female called the police Saturday at 3:37 a.m. and said the roof of 44 E. Lane Ave. fell "because kids were sitting on it," a Columbus Police dispatcher said.

Carl Scoles, a fifth-year in animal sciences who lives with five other students in the house, said the roof fell on its own.

"The wood is so rotted and worn out on that thing," he said. "I can't believe it didn't come down sooner."

Ryan Falk, a third-year in business at Bowling Green State University, was visiting his brother who lives in the house. Falk said he was asleep in the living room when the roof collapsed and that nobody was sitting on it.

But George Ypsilantis, property manager for Pella Co., which rents out more than 50 properties — including the one on East Lane — to students, said he suspects people sitting on the roof caused its collapse.

"Porches don't just fall down," he said.

When maintenance issues occur, Scoles said Pella does "the least amount possible to repair things."

"We've had problems with stuff falling apart before," he said. "Last year the bottom of this roof was rotting and falling off, so they just put up some plywood to cover it."

Again, Ypsilantis disagreed. He said there has been no repair work on the porch roof within the past two years, but that putting up sheets of plywood is probably how such a repair would have been made.

Ypsilantis said he inspects all the Pella properties at least once a month. Scoles, who has lived there for more than a year, said he has never seen a company representative inspect the property.

Ypsilantis is trying to expedite the repair process, but "it could take a few weeks to get all the paperwork approved," he said. Until then, temporary railings are being installed to allow the residents to use the porch, he said.

The repairs are estimated to cost between $5,000 and $10,000, all of which Pella will likely pay, Ypsilantis said.

While the incident resulted in no injuries, "it crushed a perfectly good beer-pong table," said Kayla Ream, a fourth-year in business at Wright State University, who was visiting her brother who lives in the house.

Scoles said he has had other issues with Pella not making proper repairs to his house.

"Last year someone punched a hole in the shower wall," he said. "We put in a maintenance request to fix it, and they just covered the hole with a mirror."

Ypsilantis said repairs are made on a case-by-case basis.

"Whenever we do repairs and everything else, it's different situations," he said. "If they punched a hole in the thing … we could tell them, ‘Hey, we have to replace the whole panel,' or we could put a Plexiglas mirror in there."

Ypsilantis said Pella responds to most maintenance requests within a day.

"This is going to take a big mirror to fix," Scoles said.

Comments

26 comments
Anonymous
Tue Nov 2 2010 10:57
Although not all OSU landlords are up-to-date on their properties or very involved in their upkeep, it's also up to the students living in them to take care of them as if it were their own property. How many houses off-campus look like the students take any interest in taking care of them? Very few, if any. It's not just the landlords' responsibility.
Former Tennant
Mon Nov 1 2010 19:18
This story does not surprise me. I lived there and I am honestly surprised it has lasted the 5 years since I graduated. There is only so much duct tape and paint can fix.
M. Eckholt
Sun Oct 31 2010 13:21
Campus houses are very expensive to maintain property. Companies like Pella and Buckeye do not invest each year in their properties. There are landlords that do and I suggest students look for those landlords.
It all started when individual homeowners owned the properties and did not maintain them because they could not afford to. The old line landlords like Pella and Buckeye have investors that do not want to spend the money to improve the properties because they know it does not matter - in will be rented.

The university with the City of Columbus just needs to come up with a certification of properties that the students can review and they will spen the money to get the certification because they know that the properties will not be rented if they do not have the certication. Until that happens students need to put effort into finding and renting only the acceptable places.

Anonymous
Thu Oct 28 2010 16:00
Before your last months rent, ask for your security deposit back. If they fail to give it back, withhold a portion of your rent equal to that deposit. Its that easy. When they come after you, threaten legal action. They are only allowed to charge for things beyond normal wear and tear as defined under Ohio law. That doesn't include carpet cleaning, painting, minor repairs, etc... which they almost always try to pawn off on unsuspecting renters. Just withhold your cash, and tell them to kiss your a**.
Anonymous
Thu Oct 28 2010 13:26
My daughter lived in a Pella property. They may inspect the properties, I doubt they do, but the inspector must be vision impaired. Why doesn't the city of Columbus enforce the building codes? It certainly enforces the parking laws. Call Mayor Coleman and ask him why building inspection is invisible in the student housing area.
Anonymous
Thu Oct 28 2010 00:19
PELLA SUCKS
SPOILED OSUSTUDENTS
Tue Oct 26 2010 19:34
OUR MAINTENANCE MAN IS PAID 500 CASH A WEEK
409 JOINT COMPOUND AND SPACLEING OUR THEIR SPECIALTY
WHY RENOVATE IF WE HAVE PREMIUM MARKET RENT FOR A DUMP AS IS
WE ARE A BUSINESS DOES THIS MAKE BUSINESS SENSE ABSOLUTELY
collectiveincompetence
Tue Oct 26 2010 19:20
Ago properties LLC is an inelastic marginal product

we based our homes on 84 month payback
Donald Rumsfeld philosophy "repairs are not in the budget Basic maintenance is not budgeted for.
Dont get angry at peela company pella company just manages it for ARGO PROPERTIES LLC
ARGO PROPERTIES LLC is not public therfore not required to disclose who owns it.
if it is legally questionable they dont remember they dont recall they are so sure of themselves but cross them and they will answer with doubt

Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 16:30
Campus landlord abuse is a tradition at OSU. 40 years ago, it was Soler Rentals and a bunch of others...grow up. If you want the freedom and independence of living in a house off campus; a) Accept that they are going to try to take your security deposit, unless you raise legal issues; b)Accept that you are going to get what you pay for...if your rent is low end (and realize that "low end" is ridiculously high, compared to off-campus), then your maintenance and service level will be low; and c) recognize that, if you leave, there has always, historically, been some other uninformed undergrad schmuck who will absolutely drool over the same house, because it will be "their first place"...that would be the way it is.
Karl Farwig
Tue Oct 26 2010 15:58
Until tenants and co-signors of leases begin to practice the processes laid out in the OSU Legal Housing website, these slumlords will continue to take advantage of these students. Last year, we took our son's landlord to mediation in Franklin County Court (it is free to do this), and got all but $100 back (reasonable as I am sure they are not totally innocent). They moved into an apartment by the same landlord only to find it to be filthy, full of mold and with needed repair. We immediately documented everything and followed the process. Upon getting no action, we called the City Inspector who put 7 city code violations on the landlord. Then the landlord tried to withhold some of the security deposit for cleaning, which we quickly disputed and noted he was in violation of the agreed upon mediation agreement. He returned all of the wrongfully withheld security deposit. This year we delivered 4 pages of condition notes with pictures to the landlord and several things that needed repaired. The landlord acted upset and that no one has ever done this before. Well... guess what... if these conditions continue more and more parents and students should follow these processes... see http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/shlc/forms.php and follow the processes and you will not be taken advantage of. Also, a house my son lived at 2 years ago still has same conditions in it that the landlord tried to charge us for. Keep in mind they can't not withhold unless they have done the work. We plan to give those current tenants are security withhold report with hopes they actually can dispute this unethical practice.
Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 15:37
K.T. if you want to complain that the landlords/ rental companies have to go out and repair these 80 year old homes that they rent to us that is fine because everyone is entitled to their opinion. However I would like you to consider some facts first.

The "property group" that I rented from for three years charged $45,000 per year in rent, and according to the Franklin County Auditors website the taxes owed for that piece of property(which is a duplex) which is valued at $150,000(approx) is $2,889 for 2009. So if my math is correct that leaves them with $40,000+ in profit on just one property, they own 20 on campus, so who exactly do you think is getting screwed here? They have to pay two maintenance men and a property manager, along with "flipping" the house at the end of the year which probably consumes around $20,000 a year including routine repairs throughout the year. And yet some how they thought that we did so much damage upon leaving(after three years) that they kept our entire security deposit. Are you seeing where I'm going here?

Not to mention most wiring and apparently now porches which most students utilize to keep inside damage to a minimum are not safe. It will come back to most of these slum lords in time I know it will and I will be sitting back with a HUGE grin on my face when it does.

Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 15:29
Until tenants and co-signors of leases begin to practice the processes laid out in the OSU Legal Housing website, these slumlords will continue to take advantage of these students. Last year, we took our son's landlord to mediation in Franklin County Court (it is free to do this), and got all but $100 back (reasonable as I am sure they are not totally innocent). They moved into an apartment by the same landlord only to find it to be filthy, full of mold and with needed repair. We immediately documented everything and followed the process. Upon getting no action, we called the City Inspector who put 7 city code violations on the landlord. Then the landlord tried to withhold some of the security deposit for cleaning, which we quickly disputed and noted he was in violation of the agreed upon mediation agreement. He returned all of the wrongfully withheld security deposit. This year we delivered 4 pages of condition notes with pictures to the landlord and several things that needed repaired. The landlord acted upset and that no one has ever done this before. Well... guess what... if these conditions continue more and more parents and students should follow these processes... see http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/shlc/forms.php and follow the processes and you will not be taken advantage of. Also, a house my son lived at 2 years ago still has same conditions in it that the landlord tried to charge us for. Keep in mind they can't not withhold unless they have done the work. We plan to give those current tenants are security withhold report with hopes they actually can dispute this unethical practice.
Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 13:47
A security deposit is meant for repairs that are outside normal wear of a house or apartment. Our landlord from last year tried to pull the same kinds of things. Just taking deposits for no reason or for things that were broken upon move in and never repaired after being reported.

I would highly recommend anyone reading this to go to the Ohio state legal site on housing. City inspectors can do repairs and the site does a good job of stating what land lords are and are not allowed to do. The moral of the story here was we lost half or depost without proper cause or documentation and got it back because information on the website. It has also been useful for getting landlords to do their jobs because most of the places around here aren't up to code and the landlords seem to need to be threatened with legal action before they will do anything.

&
Tue Oct 26 2010 12:41
I lived in that house a few years ago, and I can assure you they're not using the security deposit on replacing anything. My key still works to get into the house, half of the windows don't lock, the screens are either useless or non-existent and it doesn't look like the walls have been painted or the carpet cleaned in the past decade.

All you have to do is look at that wood and you can tell that thing was going to come down whether it was a couple kids sitting on it or a heavy snow storm.

K.T.
Tue Oct 26 2010 11:51
As an alumni of Ohio State, and also a landlord/property owner for an OSU rental. I have an interesting perspective on the whole issue. If a resident punches a hole in the wall, then yes the tenants are responsible for paying to fix it, and honestly the installation of a new piece of drywall is very costly in old homes usually constructed out of lathe and plaster. So putting up a mirror is an inexpensive way of covering over the hole until it can be fixed. Also perhaps the roof was rotted, the house was built about 80 years ago, but students sit on the roofs of their homes all the time, whether it was the current residents or past residents that sat on the roof is debatable, but then again no one should be sitting up there anyways. As a property manager and owner the most difficult thing to face is the end of tenants lease, security deposits never cover the amount of work that has to be done to a rental property when a tenant moves out. Locks need to be re-keyed, walls need to be painted, sometimes furniture needs to be hauled away (which the city of Columbus charges for), screens need to be fixed or replaced from when tenants remove them trying to climb out on the roof and walls need to be fixed from when someone decided to body check their friend into the plaster. I'm not saying there aren't terrible landlords out there, but you get what you give. If you don't respect someone else's property, what makes you think they're going to jump up and fix it at their own expense.
Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 11:08
Well I dunno... I feel like if you punch a hole in the wall you're responsible for the own repair cost. It's one thing if a tree falls and punches a hole in the wall. It's another if you're a jackass drunk trying to prove his manliness to a chick. Sounds like these residents have a sense of entitlement.

I'm not saying Pella isn't responsible. Look at it logically:
They punch a hole in the wall : substandard repair
Then,
They sit on the roof, it collapses : substandard repair
OR
Roof collapses on its own : standard repair

Hmm....

Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 10:00
I don't think this is related to any abuse. It's obviously a old house and no inspections have ever made for a long time.
Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 09:50
I know some of these boys and my son just graduated earlier this year and most of the houses that he had to live in over the years would be considered not habitable.I moved him 4 times in 4 years and could not belive some of the conditions that these places were in, but you have no other choice most of the time and then they always manage to find things to keep the deposits that had been paid.It is a game that is played by these landlords and nobody ever listens to the people living in these places.
Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 08:34
I am the mother of one of the house residents and have visited them there a few times. I was appalledby the horrible state of disrepair that house is in. They pay a hefty rental fee for the property and should expect it to be maintained in good condition. The disrepair I noticed wasn't the type caused by the students in there...it was simply from natural deterioration/aging.
Those rental houses all around the campus area are very old and I know from personal experience as a student renter in one many years ago that the property managers care very little about doing any serious repair and/or renovation. Unfortunately it will likely take someone getting seriously killed or injured before management takes any restorative actions. Perhaps a personal injury lawsuit would equally change their current lack of maintenance and inspection. I've noticed sagging in the ceiling of that house and worry that the floor could give way and crush anyone in there. So, bottom line is that it is no surprise that the porch roof of that house simply crumbled from age or shabby construction...most likely both!
Anonymous
Tue Oct 26 2010 07:35
The kids are complaining because THEY punched a hole in the shower and they didn't think it was properly fixed? Geez. Hope Pella charges them for that when they move out. Generally when you're the cause of the problem, you don't have much room to gripe about the solution.

It would be great if the city would do a detailed inspection of every off-campus residence at least once a year. I know with the city's resources it's not feasible, but a lot of these houses are accidents waiting to happen. Structural and electrical issues are probably pretty common in most of these places. Landlords generally do very little maintenance and students often abuse the properties.

As for this story, why didn't the Lantern state who called 911? Was it an impartial neighbor or passer-by? If so, I would probably believe them when they say people were on the roof. Why would they make up a story like that? They should obtain the actual 911 call and report on what was said.

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