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Bielema, Narduzzi object to Meyer's recruiting tactics

periatt.1@osu.edu

Published: Wednesday, February 1, 2012

Updated: Friday, June 15, 2012 22:06

Meyer

Chelsea Castle / Managing editor for content

OSU football coach Urban Meyer talks about National Signing Day at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center Feb. 1.


Recruiting is often called a dirty business and more than one Big Ten coach has expressed his displeasure with the way Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer goes about attracting his student-athletes.

Wisconsin coach Bret Bielema shared his discontent with recruiting Wednesday at a press conference in which he introduced the Badger's recruiting class.

"There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn't want to see in this league," Bielema said. "That I had seen take place in other leagues. Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal."

Bielema went on to mention Meyer specifically.

"I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him," Bielema said. "The situation got rectified."

Meyer is making no apologies though.

"We're hired to go after recruits as hard as we can," Meyer said. "I mean as hard as we can."

Offensive lineman recruit Kyle Dodson announced Wednesday that he will attend OSU even though he was previously committed to play for Bielema at Wisconsin. The change of heart is representative of a hot-button issue surrounding recruiting in college football.

The best football players from around the nation draw interest from the top programs across the country. A player can commit to a school, but that commitment doesn't become official until the player signs his national letter of intent. Until the player puts his name on the dotted line, he is free to change his mind as many times as he wants and coaches are allowed to plead their school's case until the ink hits the paper.

The first day a prospect can make his commitment official is referred to as National Signing Day. This year's National Signing Day was Wednesday and Meyer received commitments from 25 student-athletes.

Several of Meyer's recruits had previously made verbal commitments to other schools, but Meyer was successful in persuading them to officially commit at OSU.

At least six of Meyers' 25 commitments, including Dodson, were verbally committed to another school before flipping their decision and opting to play for the Buckeyes come signing day.

Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin and Notre Dame all saw at least one recruit change his mind in favor of Meyer.

It's long been suggested that there's an unwritten agreement within the Big Ten that once a recruit commits to a school, all other Big Ten coaches will leave the player alone.

Michigan State defensive coordinator Pat Narduzzi said such a rule existed between former OSU coach Jim Tressel and Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio and indicates Meyer might be breaking the rule.

"(The agreement) has been between the coaches," Narduzzi said while speaking at the Pro Football Hall of Fame Luncheon Club Monday in Canton, Ohio, according to the Canton Repository. "Jim Tressel and Mark Dantonio would never call or talk to each other's commitments. People coach Dantonio knows well don't come in and take players away. When you do, you lose friendships over that."

Meyer was able to lure defensive end recruit Se'Von Pittman from the Spartans despite Pittman verbally committing to Michigan State last summer.

Pittman is considered by recruiting experts to be among the top 10 players in the nation at his position.

"It sets a tone and starts a recruiting rivalry," Narduzzi said at the luncheon. "I guess it's fair game. You don't want it to be that way, but that's how it is."

Meyer defended himself Wednesday at a press conference in which he and some of his assistants talked about the incoming recruiting class.

"Se'Von Pittman had a relationship with Luke Fickell," Meyer said. "I think we helped it when I made that phone call. That was one of those things, he recruited us after a little bit … He always wanted to be an Ohio State Buckeye."

And in case there was any confusion, Meyer made it clear he had no problem recruiting players already committed to other schools.

"There are some people that say, ‘How can you go and recruit a young guy that's committed to another school?' You ask a question, ‘Are you interested?' If they say no, you move on. If they say, ‘Yes, very interested,' then you throw that hook out there. If they're interested, absolutely, especially if they are from your home state."

Pittman is a Canton, Ohio, native and played high school football at McKinley High School.

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23 comments

Anonymous
Mon Feb 27 2012 10:37
You would think that OSU would want to repair it's image instead of create more controversy. Jim Tressel was a coach that broke the rules but he also was a coach that respected other Big Ten coaches and teams. (that may have been a contradiction) But go ahead....do what you always do to be "winners." We will see if you make the Big Ten Championship game next season. Oh. That's right.......you can't play.
RP
Fri Feb 24 2012 18:03
Keep crying Bielemarecruiting and players make their own decisions . Your just mad you lost. I am sure you never had a player change his mind?
Anonymous
Wed Feb 8 2012 16:43
Lets see Beilma just recruited a coach away from the University of Pittsburgh's staff on Monday that signed with Panthers new staff two weeks ago. Okay Brett talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth. !!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
Sat Feb 4 2012 08:52
GO BUCKY! BEAT OSU!
Anonymous
Fri Feb 3 2012 09:15
Urban is doing what he is paid to do, and that is why he has been successful in the past. This is his job. Bileima is a crybaby! Maybe he got a little heat for not dong his. You call the recruit up, say I am interested. They make the decision. We became a different program with the addition of Urban Meyer and the players have spoken. They want to play for the guy that is doing his job, and that starts with recruiting. These 5 star recruits have NFL aspirations. It is like going to the best school you can get into, the best football program you can get into. Maybe if Wisconsin ever won their bowl games kids would be more interested, What a joke.
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 20:13
People these last two posters scare me because they've completely lost their perspective. This is ONLY football, and in the ultimate scheme of things, it just isn't that important. And doing anything to anyone to get what you want isn't OK. It isn't the image a college should be putting forth, and it sure isn't something we ought to be paying some bonehead 4 million dollars a year to do. Geez, when is OSU going to get its act together and its priorities straight?
Buck Nutt
Thu Feb 2 2012 20:01
Lol people find any excuse to hate on Ohio State. Dont get mad because we have a coach with some balls thats not scared to go out on a limb and take chances! The days of playing nice and not trying to hurt anyones feelings are over! Suck it up the Urb is here to stay! Like Herm Edwards said "You play to WIN the game!" If you sissy coaches cant stand the heat then get the F out the kitchen! Go join the WAC or something! Go Bucks!!!
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 19:54
All you pu$$ys need to stop crying!! This a FOOTBALL!! Screw this so-called gentlemens aggreement! A player is free to sign with whoever he sees fit until he signs his letter. Stop crying because a player chose another Univrsity over yours. If a player changed his mind, did you really have him to begin with? Or was he just settling for your program?? Get a life! Win or go home!! O-H!!
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 16:13
BTW - the numbers will add up without running people off. Some players (like fullbacks) know that the role they were recruited for won't be featured in Meyer's schemes and are transferring out.

Also, OSU handed out 4-year scholarships this year. Which means OSU is making it harder to "run off" players based on performance.

Some but not all B10 programs did the same. But I guess some B10 coaches don't have the integrity of an Urban Meyer.

Whaaaaa-waaaaa
Thu Feb 2 2012 16:05
No suprise - those that hate OSU will make this out to be "cheating"

After Dodson committed to Wisky, the OL coach left. Is he allowed to change his mind then? After Decker committed to ND, the OL coach left. Is he allowed to change his mind then?

Most of these kids made decisions during the period where OSU was dangling in the wind waiting for an NCAA ruling. Meyer came in, the NCAA ruled and now those kids had a chance to change thier mind - and they did.

Did anyone care when Michigan took Kalis who had already committed to OSU? Nope, because OSU has been on top so long that no one shows them any sympathy.

Coaches in the B10 have been stealing recruits from each other for years (search for "Rich Rodriguez" and "wizard hat"). It never happened between Tressel and Dantonio because they were tight. And Beilema - who used a loophole to recruit his 5th year QB Russell Wilson - is nothing but a fat whiner.

There is nothing immoral, let alone illegal, about what Meyer did. And next year, when he isn't digging out of a hole, he wont NEED to do it - as OSU will be in the top 5 programs to be recruited to again.

Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 14:56
Adding Meyer to the Big Ten is simply adding the SEC mentality to the league. If the collective coaches are unhappy with the methods, then they need to grab Delaney by the throat and tell him to put an end to it.

We handle it directly. We tell a kid that if he verbals to us,and we accept it...we are COMMITTED to each other. There Will be a scholarship for him ( if he is qualified by NCAA standards). If he gets a call from another school he is to tell them Thank you but he is committed and don't call again. If the coach calls again WE will call him back. If the kid has second thoughts, he is to tell us. At that point the commitment is over, we will recruit another guy for his slot. If he is available at the end and we have a ship left ...maybe we will look again.

Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 13:45
The problem with what Meyer did is that OSU already has the reputation of being a school that can't win without cheating. Meyer's actions don't technically break any rules, but they are underhanded nonetheless. This "win at all costs" attitude is stupid, and all it ultimately does is help the players reach their full potential as felons while the coach dances off to the bank. It's greed at its finest, and it saddens me to think that I am in any way associated with a school, any of its students, or any of its alumni who don't seem to understand that this is a problem.
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 13:08
sports are stupid
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 11:28
anonymous #1 & #2, this is what is wrong with people now a days and will be the pitfall of America as well. Everyone wants to play nicey nice and not step on anyones toes and give everyone hugs and kisses. If you want the team you root for to suck, then go cheer for another team who gives up on 4* and 5* athletes once they verbally committ to another school. I don't understand why you think that Urban is a bad guy because 2 kids who probably wanted to go to OSU in the first place came here after verballing to other schools. And I love how you can freely judge a man who you have never met personally and call him an egotistical maniac haha. You are obviously still in love with tressel, who was a great coach, but now we see wasnt as good of a person as we thought. Tressel isnt a bad person he just doesnt practice what he preaches and I for one was mezmerized by tressel and thought he could do no wrong. But atleast give Urban a chance before making baseless judgements on the man.
Whaaa!
Thu Feb 2 2012 10:09
It's called competition and these kids are free to change their minds if they want. This is football; quit crying like a little b!tch because someone likes us better than you.
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 09:03
What everyone is missing is that the numbers do not add up, and this is not the first time he has done this. He OVER recruits players and then they "magically" go by the wayside by the fall. He did it almost every year at UF. What does happen to those players? I do realize some will leave after this year and some scholarships will be available. However, you need to remember that OSU lost 3 scholarships b/c of the violations, so they are already low on the amount to give. So you all need to see how many scholarships he is currently giving to kids and how many he has to give. They do not match up.
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 08:19
FYI - Michigan did the same crap, so it's not just ohio state.......Kalis flipped and Dunn nearly changed late in the process.
Atlanta Buckeye
Thu Feb 2 2012 08:06
Sheesh! National Signing Day is barely over and Buckeyes and non-Buckeyes alike are already bashing the program. Give Urban a chance to do his job. If, after a few years, we're in more hot water, he'll have to go. Personally, I like the energy and vibe he brings to Columbus. I will forever love JT, despite the issues, for what he did both off the field and on, but it was nearing time for a change, anyway. Regarding "submarining the integrity of OSU with fellow B1G Coaches", give me a break. Bielema and most other generals were licking their chops at OSU's recruits 6 months ago. You may not like Urban's smugness (I hated it while he was at UF), but don't question his integrity until you have reason to do so. Go Bucks!
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 07:38
In the words of Wisconsin's basketball coach Bo Ryan "Deal With It"
Anonymous
Thu Feb 2 2012 07:34
Anon #3: What this article doesn't mention is the fact that a lot of those "flipped" recruits had made verbal commitments to Ohio State before Tressel was forced to step down, including Pittman and Dodson. The same B1G coaches who are crying foul about Meyer's recruiting had no qualms about carving up what would have been Tress's 2012 class. Clearly, they weren't at all concerned about their "gentlemen's agreement" when OSU's offseason was in turmoil. Bielema and Narduzzi are playing the sore-loser card here.




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